02-06-91 Planning Commission MINCITY • OTSEGO PLALNNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES
FEBRUARY 6, 1991 - 8 PM
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Ing Roskaft
at 8:05PM. Ing asked for approval of 1-16-91 and 1-23-91.
Planning Commission Minutes. Bruce Rask Motioned to approve
the minutes of 1-16-91 and 1-23-91 Planning Commission.
Kathy Lewis seconded the motion. Motion carried
unanimously.
MEMBERS PRESENT ARE AS FOLLOWS:
Mark Wallace Bruce Rask
Carl Swenson Larry Fournier
Ing Raskaft Jim Kolles
Kathy Lewis
Also present were Dave Licht, Planner, Elaine Beatty,
Deputy Clerk, Merlin & Mary Brisbin, Lois Hall, Mr & Mrs Tim
Clark, David Gilgenbach and Leonard Sanoski.
2. DR DAVID A GILGENBACH - 14273 191ST AVE NW, Elk
River, Mn 55330 - Sec 15, Twp 121, R 23, Lots 2 and 7, Block
1, Mississippi Shores 6TH ADD. Requests a Cond. Use Permit
to rent his rental space in the Ani -Mall to Elk River School
Dist #728 Special Education Classes. (PID #Is 214-038-001020
and 214-038-001070).
Dr Gilgenbach appeared before the Commission and stated
the School District #728 has a need for Special Education
space for students that have dropped out of High School and
need to complete their education. He stated that 8AM to 8PM
would be the approximate span of time to conduct the classes.
The Commission looked at the floor plan for the rental space.
There will be two handicapped bathrooms that would be
available. Gilgenbach stated there will be twenty to thirty
students at one time. (A sketch floor plan for the area is
attached). Gilgenbach explained how the area would be used.
He stated that his location was selected because they like to
keep the students out of a school setting. A sign was
discussed for this rental space. Gilgenbach said they would
probably have a wood sign made for the window. He stated
they have extra parking if needed. They have 35 total
parking spaces. In the back of the building there is space
for Gilgenbach's staff if needed.
Bruce Rask brought up combining the two lot-,;.
Gilgenbach stated they are now combined. It was required by
Wright County when he built. (Elaine will check)
Dave Licht stated all uses in B®2 are Cond. Uses and
everytime a use changes they have to come back in. The new
ordinance will have a list of activities acceptable. Licht
stated he saw no problem with an education facality. If the
use is sewer or septic high use we need to have it checked by
the Engineer. The list an Page #2 of Licht's report is for
use until our ordinance is in place. Page #3 of Licht's
report has six conditions that need to be addressed and one
other item should be added. #7 should be property tax and
payment of same. Licht stated lie strongly recommends
approval of the Cond. Use Permit.
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Gilgenbach stated the building has three septic tanks
and drainfields so it is designed for a restaurant. He said
the lease with the School District is 2-1/2 years.
KATHY LEWIS motioned to recommend approval of the Cond.
Use Permit for Dr. David Gilgenbach's Rental Space to the
Special Ed. Classes of Dist #728 subject to the conditions in
Northwest Consultants Report, including #7. Property Taxes.
BRUCE RASK seconded the motion. Motion carried unanimously.
2. MERLIN & MARY BRISIN - Requests a Home Extended
Business Permit for his "Sewerman" Business of pumping and
cleaning septics. He is also requesting two (2) variances;
one for an oversized Dole building for his trucks and one for
closer than 500' from the nearest residence for his Cond. Use
Permit. Sec 28, T121, R23. The W 3301 of E 660' of 6EI/4
Wright Co, Mn (PID #214-000-284401).
Merlin & Mary Brisbin were present and addressed the
Commission. Brisbin stated they want to use the same
driveway coming in for the garage. and a Variance is needed
for 1841 from neighboring residence instead of the 5001
required. Brisbin stated the building is 481 x 80' and not
801 x 501 and he needs a variance for the oversized building
because regulation is 2,000 sq ft.
Dave Licht stated he and Elaine Beatty had met with
Brisbin at a Staff meeting and tried to discourage this use.
The issue is how much you want this to occur in the
community. In the past the home -occupation businesses have
been a problem in enforcement. Licht stated Brisbin is
expanding further and has a successful business and has
outgrown his residential lot and further, the variances
involved Licht stated he has a hard time with and basically
there is no justification with the law to approve the
variances. Licht stated if the commission grants the
variance they should change the ordinance now, treating
everyone equally and fairly. Licht stated he feels the
infringement an neighboring properties is a major concern.
Licht complimented Brisbin and said he is doing a good job
and it is no reflection on him. Licht stated the commission
should give Brisbin time to locate his business in an
Industrial area. The City has not had time to figure out
where the industrial areas should be.
Ing Roskaft stated lie is representing Jim LeFebvre and
he had called Ing and approved the entire proposal with the
40001 bulding and saw no problem with it.
Tim Clark, Brisbin's next door neighbor spoke and said
he has questions and concerns aobut the proposed business.
He questioned Brisbin's building and will it house trucks
only? The area is zoned Ag/Res now and Licht assumes it will
stay as such for some time. The neighbors are concerned that
the building will have a negative effort on their property.
Bruce Rask questioned the assessory building size?
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Licht stated with home extended occupations you may have a
0,000 sq ft building and said you need to look at the home
occupation question. They are hard to pursue as far as the
code of law. Once they are in, they are hard to take away (a
persons livleyhood.)
Carl Swenson asked when he planned on building? Brisbin
stated they plan on moving in two weeks and would like to
build as soon as possible. It was deter -mined it is now zoned
Ag. Larry Fournier said the real question is "Do we want
home extended businesses."
Leonard Sanoski a neighbor said he and his neighbors
discussed this issue and they want the area to stay
residential.
Mrs Tim Clark feels this business should go into a
designated area.
Brisbin stated in an Industrial area you are talking
about a lot of expense. Licht stated streets would have to
be built in an Industrial area to Industrial standard, but
the expenses are miniminal otherwise.
Carl Swenson asked why he wants such a big building if
he only has two trucks? Brisbin stated they want a
basketball court for their kids, but he can make it smaller
and his -trucks from bumper to bumper are 321 long.
Mrs Clark stated they are still concerned about a
business coming into the area.
Larry Fournier asked if we could put a moratorium on
home extended businesses until we get our Comprehensive Plan
ready? Dave Licht answered yes.
Mrs Brisbin asked about and Industrial Park and how do
we get -the home extended businesses to move to the Industrial
Park? Licht said three to five years would be the time to
give them.
Licht asked Brisbin if there is anyplace he can operate
his business? Brisbin answered at his present address.
Mrs Clark stated she feels this is a community problem
and needs to be addressed as such.
BRUCE RASK motioned to make a recommendation that this
go to the City Council with an extension of the existing
bussiness until we can come up with a designated Industrial
Site. The neighbors feel it is not the place for a business.
Mrs Clark brought up other extended businesses on the
road that are not well operated and they were told one of the
reasons for becoming a City is to be able to plan.
Carl Swenson stated that it would be more fair to
recommend -turning the request down with an extension of his
business until the site is designated.
Rack's motion died without a second.
CARL SWENSON motioned to recommend denial of the home
extended business as follows:
1. Concerns and comments raised by neighbors.
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2. Lack of new Ordinance Governing and defining,
extended home occupations.
3. Recommendations as contained in NRC's January 25,
1991 report for Brisbin.
LARRY FOURNIER seconded the motion. Motion carried
unanimously.
BRUCE RASK motioned to give 180 days to Brisbin to
vacate the residential site. MARK WALLACE seconded the
motion. Motion carried unanimously.
LARRY FOURNIER motioned to hold a Public Hearing at the
next possible meeting to address a Moratorium on Home
Extended Businesses until our new Zoning Ordinance is in
place. CARL SWENSON seconded the motion. Motion carried
unanimously.
BRUCE RASK motioned to set a special meeting for the
Planning Commission for February 27, 1991 at 8PM. Jim Kolles
seconded the motion. Motion Carried unanimously. (Hearing on
Moratorium on Home Extended Businesses)
Ing Roskaft noted he had discussed a joint Planning
Meeting with Elk River with Mary Eberly and she would like
two volunteers from the Otsego Planning Commission to help
plan a surrounding communities planning meeting. KATHY
LEWIS AND MARK WALLACE volunteered to help Eberly.
There was some discussion on Lorraine Heinz's new home
and having a "mother-in-law" apartment and what the planning
Commission's feelings were on the issue. Licht said
encourage, within design to set up separate living areas with
one entrance. The units can riot be sealed off from each
other. It can have a separate entrance. (like walkout)
LARRY FOURNIER motioned to adjourn the meeting. KATHY
LEWIS seconded the motion. Motion carried unanimously.
Meeting adjourned at 10 PM.
JAMES R KOLLES, SECRETARY OF PLANNING COMMISSION
Minutes by Elaine Beatty, Recording Secretary
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Subd. 2 Off-Sale Licenses. "Off-Sale" licenses shall be
ued only to (exclusive) liquor stores and shall permit "Off-
Sale" of liquor only. An exclusive liquor store shall include an
"On-Sale" or a combination "On-Sale" and ,off-Sale" establishment
at which food is sold for consumption on the premises.
Subd. 3 Temporary On -Sale License. The City may issue to
a club or charitable, religious or other other non-profit
organization that has existed for at least three (3) years a
temporary on -sale license for the sale of intoxicating liquor in
connection with a social event within the City sponsored by the
licensee. The license may authorize the on -sale of intoxicating
liquor for no more than three (3) consecutive days, and may
authorize on -sales on premises not owned or permanently occupied
by the licensee. No such license is valid unless first approved
by the Commissioner of Public Safety.
Subd. 4. Wine Licenses.
1). General. The City may issue an on -sale wine
license to a restaurant having a seating capacity of at least 25
guests. No such license is effective until approved by the
liquor control commissioner. All provisions of Minn. Stat.
340A.404, Subd. 5. are adopted and made a part of this section.
2). Days of Sale. A wine license shall authorize the
sale of wine on all days of the week. (The City may prohibit
Sunday wine sales pursuant to Minn. Stat. 340A.404, Subd. 5 (a).)
Section 3 License Application.
Subd. 1 Form. Every application for a license to sell
liquor within the City of Otsego shall state the name of the
applicant, his age, representations as to his character, with
such references as the Council may require, his citizenship, the
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