04-24-91 Planning Commission MINCITY OF OTSEGO SPECIAL PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES OF
APRIL 24, 1991 AT SPM
Ing Roskaft, Chairman called the meeting to order at 8:05PM.
The following members were present:
Larry Fournier Ing Roskaft Carl Swenson
Kathy Lewis Mark Wallace
The Following City Council Members were present:
Norman F Freske . Floyd Roden Ron Black
Also present:
Dave Lichl
Elaine Beatty
Ing Roskaft stated that the Minutes of 4-17-91 would be
considered at May 1, 1991 Council Meeting.
Dave Licht started on page #77:
With sewer and urban service area and outlying area,
assuming there is sewer, the emphasis is to put the most
development in the main urban service area. (All upcoming
major developments have focused here).
Licht stated that he sees the upcoming VFW ballfields,
CUP as a positive. It serves as an interum use and serves as
a block in the area to residential. Larry Fournier asked
about subdivision of lots. Does it work? Dave answered it
does work and we need to allow for it in developments. Ing
Roskaft stated the County is, on all plats in R-1 Zone. The
house has to go in a certain place. Ran Black asked Licht if
any plat has gone in and resubdivided when sewer came in?
Licht answered "yes, Washington County has one and there are
others".
Licht stated that their approach to Zoning is to create
a large number of Zoning Districts. If you want to control
development, the broader the development, the less control
you have. They will give several single family Zones. one,
to 2-1/2 acre lots. With sewer you get Zones for
Townhouses, etc. For urban area one and two and one-half
acre lots with re -subdivision possible. (will not allow acre
lots, unless part of a larger sub -division. You don't want a
lot of access on the major streets.
Licht asked the Planning Commission for their ideas on
lot sizes. Swenson asked if you had one to one and one-half
acre what size lot would be allowed when sewer and water
come? Licht answered that a 12,000 or 12,500 square foot lot
is what the developers have been told.
Larger lot size may bring higher price range of homes.
Sewer will make a difference. 1 1-1/2 acres is a minimum.
It doesn't mean five or ten acres aren't allowed.
Street frontage and eventual re -subdivision has to be
shown when coming in to subdivide. Ordinance set forth is
the minimum,but it doesn't mean you have to accept minimuns
if the Planning Commission doesn't think it will work.
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Licht needs direction on lot sizes in the Urban Service
Area. Surrounding the immediate service area they also need
some direction. Licht recommends they allow nothing less
than ten (10) acres. (The more ten or five acre parcels
there are, the harder they are to divide. The Metro area
uses ten (10) acres as their minimum, if there is no sewer
and water.
Fournier asked how full does the immediate area have to
be? When do you start to expand in the surrounding area?
Licht answered, the market will dictate. If you have the
option you run it when times are good. When you zone
property or make a comprehensive plan, you influence market.
Policies of running sewer dictates when you cross-over into
surrounding study area, after subdivision has occured to the
maximum in the immediate urban sewer area. (Where the sewer
line is, you will find development follows). In the river
areas, if the City goes to mandatory septic pumping of sewer,
Licht suggests two and one-half acre lot size, otherwise five
(5) acres minimum. Maybe every two years for septic pumping
could be considered. Ag land - one per 40 acre or one per 80
acre. You need to save prime Ag land.
Industrial P#34: was discussed. What is appropriate for
Industrial was asked? Which areas? Create an option for
Industrial. Licht stated that direction from the Planning
Commission is needed. Think about it and resolve by May 1,
1991 Planning Commission Meeting. Look at #94 and #122 & #37
areas as possible areas for various Industrial sites.
Licht discussed the road in the Woolston's Antelope Park
Plat. (96TH Street). We are asking Woolston to show both
options for roads. It is crucial that a road does go
through. Larry Koshak's office is looking at Stop signs for
this area. We are suggesting an access to the Park be moved
next to the Mississippi Shores Plat.
Carl Swenson motioned to adjourn the meeting. Larry
Fournier seconded the motion. Motion carried unanimously.
JAMES R 1,0LES, SECRETARY
Elaine Beatty, Recording Secretary
on.