06-05-91 Planning Commission MINCITY • OTSEGO PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES • JUNE 5,
1991 AT 8PM -PAGE 1
Meeting was called to order by Chairman Ing Roskaft at 8PM.
The following members were present:
MARK WALLACE CARL SWENSON LARRY FOURNIER
ING ROSKAFT KATHY LEWIS JIM KOLLES
BRUCE RASK
Staff present were Bob Kirmis from NAC and Elaine Beatty from
Otsego.
Roskaft asked for approval of minutes. Roskaft rioted that in
the minutes it stated lie had said lie is against service
drives, but what he actually said was that he had talked
about future Hearing being held on 101 and future lights
being taken out on 42. (Roskaft said he is against all
service drives instead of direct access) I didn't say that.
I did say, we were talking about that area might contain town
houses, apartment houses, etc. and I could not see forcing
these people to drive a mile and one-half or more out of
there way to get to 101. As far as service roads are
concerned, they are necessary and we will have to have them
in certain areas.
Kathy Lewis motioned to accept May 15TH and May 22ND,
1991 with the correction as noted. Larry Fournier seconded
the motion. Motion carried unanimously.
Ing Roskaft noted that the Agenda will be changed a
little tonight. Riverwood Conference Center PUD was
published as to Hearing date, but because of not being ready
it is postponed to an unforeseen date. It will be re-
published and noticed when their information is complete. No
conversation on this tonight. (It will riot be discussed
tonight).
EVELYN KONENIG was called upon in regards to Kenneth
Lindenfelser's land in Sec 29, Twp 121, R23 and possible
Light Ind Dev Site. She stated that they have seventy acres
of woods east of the farmland they maybe interested in using
for Light Industrial. She is not s re they are interested in
selling now. Ms Konenig stated that she prefers not to have
this published. Kathy Lewis informed her that we are just
looking for information and nothing is concrete now. Roskaft
asked if there were any more questions by the Planning
Commission. Roskaft asked Ms Konenig if this were designated
as a Light Industrial Development would she be interested in
having a developer contact her? Ms Konenig answered "Yes".
GARY SORENSON has thirty-eight acres East of Nashua and
South of #39. Sorenson stated he isn't against Light
Industrial Development in his area and wouldn't mind if the
developer contacted him. Roskaft stated if we decide this
area is OK for Light Industrial, the developers will be sent
to Mr Sorenson.
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SCHOEN_L JEFF AND BETTY WIEDENBACH (Donald Wiederibach's Land)
One per forty split to be considered by the Commission.
Parcel #118-800-232401. This item is on the Agenda for PC to
voice their opinion. It is an Administrative Subdivision.
Bob Kirmis went over NAC's Report. They are requesting a lot
split out of Mr Wiedenbach's farm to create a one acre parcel
for residential purposes. He owns approx 360 acres of land.
The proposed lot split is located near the intersection of
85TH ST and Kadler Ave. The proposed lot split would create
a parcel approx 1 -acre in size and 150 ft wide. (See the
attached report from NAC - Exhibit A). Kirmis noted that
they would like to see the applicant locate their lot N of
the proposed lot. The lot on the N side is low it was stated
by Schoen. Some discussion was had on the lot not meeting
the Ordinance because it is not 2001 in road frontage. They
would need a variance for the lesser frontage if they cannot
find a way to have the 2001 frontage. Schoen noted that the
land they picked is a good building site and is a hard to
farm area because it is so narrow. Swenson asked about the
possibility of obtaining a 501 portion of the lot to the N of
the proposed lot. Schoen stated they felt that would not be
possible. Fournier asked about the split of the twenty acre
parcel. The Ordinance allows for this but as a Cond Use
Permit said Kirmis. He stated the 200' lot width is the
issue here. The Commission didn't like the idea of a
Variance. A Variance was discussed and a hardship need to be
proven in order to obtain one. The Commission recommended
that the Wiedenbach's try to purchase 501 or whatever they
needed to make the 200' width road frontage and they stated
the driveway should be to the S of the property so future
lots could share road access.
AL,ZAHLER - Wishes to add 2-1/2 acres to his present 21-1/2
acre parcel to allow for horses - PID #118-500-3312302 - W
283.70 ft of N 383.75 ft of E 2163 ft of NE 1/4 Sec 33, T
121, R23. This is being brought before the PC for their
comments. (See NAC Report of May 31, 1991 attached as
Exhibit B). Kirmis noted they liked the idea. Zahler noted
lie is selling land and the purchaser wants to have a horse.
Randy Becker, Real Estate Agent was in attendance and spoke
up. The couple wants to buy the present 2-1/2 acres and buy
(riot road frontage), but 2-1/2 acres to the back of the
present lot to make a 5 acre parcel. Zahler noted he talked
to Jim LeFebvre who is the property owner of the proposed
additional 2-1/2 acres and he is willing to go along with
whatever the City advises. Kirmis stated they will be
looking for a subdivision (Lot and Block). Swenson noted if
this is a lot of record it would be a lot line adjustment
combining two parcels with one tax number. Lewis asked if
the buyer is aware of the City looking at the site across the
road from this parcel as being possible Light Industrial
Development? They stated they had not heard of it until CITY
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tonight. They will let the buyer know. The Commission said
they did not have a problem with the concept as long as the
buyer was informed of the possible Light Industrial Dev.
Roskaft asked if on approving concepts, etc, we should have a
motion on procedure? Roskaft said on Administrative items
would they like a motion and a second to handle it? Swenson
motioned to recommend approval of the concept of Al Zahler's
request. Bruce Rask seconded the motion. Fournier commented
that he feels the motion way of doing this is a much easier
way of handling it. Motion carried unanimously.
RICHARD KINCANNON - Has a concept plan for a subdivision. He
would like to subdivide sixteen acres into four 4 -acre lots.
PID #118-500-204201 on 85TH & Nashua. (See Exhibit C of
NAC's Report). Mr Kincannon stated he has a 16 acre parcel
he would like to split into four sites. When he bought the
property there were two houses on one lot in the last five
years he moved the rambler to a one acre site on the corner
of 85TH and Nashua. He remodeled tlxt� rw(l gc)t t,ld
of the non -conforming business in the farm building on the
property. (It took three years) Kincannon stated he had kind
of backed into being a "Developer". This property has two
PID's Nos. If he developed the 16 acres he will have
approximately ten acres with the farmhouse. The old Town
Board asked him about land for a water tower site Kincannon
stated. (He discussed four acres or so for this purpose).
Swenson asked what the width of these lots are. They were
unsure. Kirmis stated the property would be rezoned to R-2.
It lays within the long range Urban Service Area and the
Planning Commission has endorsed a four per forty density.
Access is onto 85TH St which is scheduled for MSA Road and
NAC recommends shared driveways. Also a plan for subdivision
if sewer and water were to come in. Kincannon stated he has
no problem with access to shared drives. Fournier asked how
much land he has Kincannon said a little over twenty-six
acres originally, but now twenty-five acres. Roskaft asked
for comments from the audience. Larry asked Bob Kirmis if we
rezone to R-2 does it get by the four per forty? Kirmis
stated it's a vital issue to consider because it could set a
policy. Rask asked what it would have to be rezoned if the
City wants it for a watertower? Kirmis answered it is an
essential, service and our Camp Plan allows for it. Fournier
motioned to table for a site inspection because of the
developments around it, so it can be looked at. Rask
seconded the motion. It was opened for discussion. Swenson
asked if there is any possibility of us considering this?
Are we wasting our time? Wallace asked how it opens up this
for everybody else? Kathy said this Camp Plan will be coming
up for Hearing. Kirmis noted the concern is the density.
Lewis noted in NAC's Report it talks about premature
Subdivisions. Roskaft asked to have the motion read. Rask
noted he is not clear on this. If we have the right or not.
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Kincannon said he welcomes a site inspection because he would
like to show the Council what he has done. Motion carried by
vote with Kathy Lewis and Carl Swenson voting against.
IT WAS NOTED THIS WILL BE CONTINUED TO JUNE 19, 1991 PLANNING
CO%,T%fISSION MEETING.
Discussion on the Comp Plan was had. Roskaft asked Kirmis
what we are doing with AG/R designated land. We have adopted
the Wright Co Ord. Kirmis stated that it his understanding
that all Ag land is Zoned Ag. Discussion was had on A/R land.
Roskaft stated that Wright Cc Zoning District has been
amended to have AG/R. Mark Wallace said maybe we should
consider the area along Nashua to be in the immediate sewer
area. Swenson said we would probably need Licht and Koshak
to be in on that discussion. Kirmis stated the immediate
sewered line was designated by the Engineers office as to
topography, etc. Kirmis stated lie is riot sure if we are
qualified to change that. Lewis stated that one of our
issues was to confirm the boundary for immediate sewer. THE
SITE INSPECTION WAS SET FOR 6/8/91 AT 4PM FOR THE KINCANNON
PROPERTY & POSSIBLE LIGHT IND. SITES.
Roskaft stated that on 37 and 122 NE they are interested in
Ag and Evelyn Konenig is interested in Sec 0.9, and Gary
Swenson is also interested in Light Ind for there land.
On the Zoning Ordinance Kirmis noted that some sections
will be available next week for the Planning Commissions
review.
Fournier motioned to adjourn the meeting. Kolles seconded
the motion. Motion carried unanimously.
-jAMES
OS-�ECRETARY
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SECRETARY
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