06-19-91 Planning Commission MINCITY OF OTSEGO PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF JUNE 19, 1991
7PM - INFORMATIONAL MEETING ON COMPREHENSIVE PLAN INFO.
Ing Roskaft called the meeting to order and informed the
residents present that because of the number of people at
this meeting and the lack of seating capacity of the City
Hall we will continue this meeting to June 26, 1091, next
Wednesday at 7:30 at the Senior High School, 900 School
Street, Elk River-, Mn 55330. Bill Radzwill spoke and told
the residents that we are having an informational meeting
only to get the people's response to what they want in there
Comprehensive Plan.
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Ing Roskaft Larry Fournier Carl Swenson
Kathy Lewis Jim Kolles Bruce Rask
Mark Wallace
STAFF PRESENT:
Dave Licht Bob Kirmis Bill Radzwill
Elaine Beatty
It was noted that the Richard Kincannon Site Inspection
.on 85TH ST and Nashua Ave NE on 6/8/91 at 477"' was attended
by the following Commission Members:
Larry Fournier Bruce Rask Ing Roskaft
Kathy Lewis Mark Wallace Carl Swenson
At 7:30PM Ing Roskaft called the regular Planning
Commission to order.
Motion was made by Kathy Lewis to approve the Minutes of
the June 5, 1991 Meeting. Seconded by Jim Kolles. All
agreed.
Dave Licht stated that a Minor Sub -division is set up
that if a parcel of land is divided and hasn't been
previously divided or under ten acres, it needs to come to
the Planning Commission and Council. Licht suggested that if
we want to allow it thru a simple sub -division' he would like
the Planning Commission to initiate a Public Hearing and add
a definition of Urban/Rural Service Area and initiate a
consideration of amendment the second meeting in July, which
is the 17, 1991.
Carl Swenson motioned to schedule a Hearing to consider
the definition of Urban/Rural Service Area and Minor Sub-
division Ordinance Amendment on July 17, 1991 at BPM. Larry
Fournier seconded the motion. All agreed.
Richard Kincannon - (Cont. from 6/5/91 Planning
Commission Meeting) PID #118-500-204201 Subdivision of
property, four - four acre lots. Sec 20,. Twp 121, R23.
Site Inspection was done by Planning Commission on 6/8/91 at
4PM. Roskaft asked Mr Kincannon if he had anything to add?
Kincannon answered no.
Kathy Lewis motioned to deny the Subdivision request for
Mr Kincannon of four - four acre lots because it does not fit
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concern for the proposed sewer and the way it is laid out
makes it hard to recommend this Subdivision. Larry Fournier
seconded the motion. All agreed.
LICHT brought up the PUD Ordinance and said it was
prepared in advance to respond to Riverwood Conference
Center. NAC has conveyed to Riverwood it needs to have PUD
for anything they do in the future. To consider Riverwood's
proposed restaurant NAC requested a text amendment. There
are two types of PUD's Licht stated.
le Cond Use Permit and one Zoning District,
The difference in terms of application is that if
you have R-1 (Island View Estates entire plat may be
asking for a PUD)
Licht explained that if one or more lots are less than
an acre and therearemore lots that are over and acre
in a development such as Island View Estates, it can
be put under a PUD Zoning District and as long as the
average lot is over one acre in size, the lots under
one acre would be allowed to be built on.
2.. Rezonina is the 2nd permit under PUD
This as a contract zone and it is set up so anybody
can ask for it in a situation where there is a
mixture such as Commercial/Residential/Industrial,
Inc. Because the concept is pre -planned, you can
assure the harmony. Licht explained that the
reason for the use in Reverwood is because Riverwood was
allowed by the County as a resort. Three acres is zoned
B-2, some is zoned Wild and Scenic and some is resort.
Licht noted that they now want to open it up to the
public (the restaurant). If the City decides it is
acceptable the way to do it is, here is a contract zone, it
was here and we didn't want to set the president of allowing
this kind of use in this area. Two principal buildings on
one piece of land requires a PUD development. Licht noted
that on the 3rd of July, 1991 is Riverwood's Hearing so we
can discuss the PUD then. Roskaft questioned if they are
redoing the motel -like rooms? Licht stated that they are not
utilizing their facility to the full extent and discussion as
to whether or not that should occur is entirely up to you.
Swenson said the whole thing has grown this way and as far as
he is concerned it is another thing in the same way. Swenson
stated that as far as most of us feel it was done in the
wrong way. Licht said he feels they need to get the PUD.
They can not do anything unless this City approves it. NAC
is not taking a Position on the restaurant, that is up to the
Planning Commission. (See File PC -62491 to continue)
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Ing Roskaft questioned if three acres are in Commercial,
is all of it Commercial? Licht said "No", the PUD is the
Zoning. Fournier stated he thinks it gives us more control.
Roskaft noted that this is only for discussion tonight and
asked if there is any more discussion? No further discussion
was had.
Licht stated that with the VFW he is concerned about the
Comprehensive Plan and that area is in the Wild and Scenic
River District. (North of Cc Rd #39 and West of Nashua vacant
building VFW wishes to purchase). He stated that for the
time being it will not come forward. The interim use was
discussed. Licht brought up the Wild and Scenic and a
meeting today with the DNR. A report was prepared by NAC's
office and he will get copies to the Planning Commission next
week. Licht said that -.three suggestions were made to the
DNR. There is no uniformity, equality of shoreland. 1,000'
from the water can be used. Another concept is in shoreland
and river control, typography is used. The third option is
use a combination of the two. It was presented to DNR today,
they will react to it and get back to us on it.
On the Zoning Ordinance, Elaine Beatty has received
notebooks from NAC's office that have the 1st seventy or
eighty pages. We will trade notebooks ( Comp Plan will be
placed in the smaller notebook ) The Sub -division Ordinance
and Zoning Ordinances will be placed in the larger notebook.
The pink pages are the first portion of the Zoning Ordinance.
First page is chapter index. First 78 pages is 1-8 only, 300
pages long. 3-8 are established sections. Section 1 is
pretty straightforward. Section 2, definations (major)
environmental aspects are dictated by the DNR. We don't have
a lot of discussion on this.
Licht asked for discussion on 1 - 8 (See Memo)
Option: example
1. Any one who wants animals needs CUP. (or a separate
standing). You are dealing with a computable issue. (More
ways of handling it was discussed). Ron Black stated that a
problem he sees is acreage, type situation with a plat
butting against it. Licht said the reason the acreage is
there is because of pasture area and manure so it dosen't
become a problem. Licht doesn't know of an Ordinance that is
not written without a minimum acreage. What can happen is a
farmer that didn't sell out. New operations may have to be
addressed, but existing should be protected. Norm Freske
said that we should use common since in this. Discussion was
had on Cond Use Permit way of handling animals. Roskaft said
he is concerned about wild animals. 2. Signs. Licht said
that will be last sections of the provisions to be addressed.
Billboards will be addressed first. Frankfort is against
billboards because of safety reasons and the back of
billboards facing residential areas. Licht said NAC's
philosophy Is to allow two signs per
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business. Height is another issue, 301 height is what most
Cities have maximum. Licht said NAC recommends no flashing
signs.. On billboards, the general philosophy os the
commission is none.
3. Assessory Builidngs. Discussion was had on sizes of
buildings, etc. Interium Use will put a time line an a
particular use of a building. Much discussion was had on
accessory buildings, sizes, garages, attached/detached, etc.
4. Council agreed no major trucks in a residential area.
5. Home Extended Business - Home Occupation allowed, Special
Home Occupation allowed but Special Permitted.
Mark Wallace motioned to adjourn the meeting. Bruce Rask
seconded the motioned. All agreed and meeting adjourned at
10:10PM.
JAMES '
K LLES,{` SEC ETAkRY
ELAINE BEATTY, RECORDING SECRETARY
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