06-26-91 Planning Commission MINCITY OF OTSEGO SPECIAL PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING lAiIAITTES OF
MEETING AT ELK RIVER SR HIGH - INFORMATIONAL MEETING ON
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN JUNE 26, 1991 AT 7:30PM
Meeting was called to or -der by Chairman Ing Raskaft at
7:30PM.
Planning Commission Members present at the meeting were
as follows:
CARL SWENSON ING ROSKAFT LARRY FOURNIER
KATHY LEWIS MARK WALLACE BRUCE RASK
JIM KOLLES
Staff members present were as follows:
DAVE LICHT BILL RADZWILL BOB KIRMIS
ELAINE BEATTY
Meeting was -turned over to Attorney Bill Radzwill at this
point. Radzwill spoke about -this Board. being the Planning
Commission, not the City Council so the residents understand
who this board is. He mentioned that Larry Fournier is a
Council Member/Planning Commission Member. The Zoning and
Subdivision Ordinance was briefly discussed. Sewage and
Septic Systems were discussed. Radzwill told the residents
to "Protect your septic systems as we have no money to pay
for a sewage system, nor do we have bonding capacity and have
your systems pumped once a year on a continuing basis".
Radzwill -told the residents to look for pollution in your
neighborhoods and report it.
Radzwill turned the mike back to Ing Roskaft who -turned
the meeting over to Dave Licht who presented the
Comprehensive Plan and backup information to the residents.
Licht told the residents when the City Zones or controls
land it has to be based on a Comprehensive Plan. The plan
sets a direction for Ordinances. Licht emphasized that this
is an informational meeting in effort to communicate before a
plan.
Approximately 225 people attended the meeting. Licht
discussed the present population (5,219 - 1990 Census figure)
and the figure he used for reports before census came out.
He said in 2010 he is projecting approximately 8,000 people
in the City of Otsego.
The Wright Co Land Use Plan was discussed and how
development was to take place. We had this handed to us and
are starting from that plan, Licht pointed out. The NE
quadrant is where the population is concentrated. Our major
highway is #101 State Highway which is presently planned for
four lane status in 1994.
Licht noted that the most crucial map of them all is the
Soils Map. Groundwater pollution is possible in the
Easterville-Hubbard type soils that are in the Urban Area of
Otsego (sandy soils).
The Comprehensive Plan is made up of these fou..'r item--:
1. Environmental. 2. Land Use Plan
3. Transportation Plan 4. Community Facilities
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LAND USE:
Relates to how much prime Ag Land should be developed.
Wright Co. plan had limitation to development.
TRANSPORTATION:
Gravel roads (some highly traveled), isolated
subdivisions, incomplete street systems and lack of hierarchy
(collector/ feeder) strcct,,.. E,,ax.iitary,c
- wer in the long term
plan - not the immediate future. There is a potential need
for Park Facilities and trails. City Service Center is also
being discussed.
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN: (draft form)
The Planning Commission has spent time putting this
together (planning document). The plan in it's basic form
reiterates what was said by the County (Urban/Rural/Wild and
Scenic) The city needs to look at infill -11--ype of
development. Concentrate development so the tax base is
built. Define what would be the area of sewer service (long
term). ox)e ycZIr race opp.raximately, the City Engineer put
together a sewer plan as to where trunk lines would go, and
an Urban Service Map. This map serves as a basis for the
entire plan. The surrounding area is a longer range area for
development. The balance (white area an map) will basically
remain Ag, except for the Wild and Scenic area. Plan does not
mean we will have sewer immediately when the plan goes into
effect. We are simply planning for the future - long range.
This plan is for long range so there is some help available
when we do have to address the sewer. Licht noted that this
map says "immediate service area" not " immediate sewer
area".
Indus -trial and Commercial was addressed, and Home
Extended Businesses. The third Light industrial area is
being looked at. "We want to create an opportunity for
everyone and anyone who wants to have a business in Otsego",
said Licht.
Licht noted that the Commercial is concentrated along lie
Hwy #101 corridor with #39 and #101 being more intense
activity and #42 and #101 being secondary commercial.
The land use within the Immediate Service Area the 'lots
allowed will be one to two and one-half acre lots. The
longer raijoe area is sited for four acres for forty. The
balance Ag land is one per forty. In the Wild and Scenic
r.,ivcr corridor two and one-half acres to a unit. (the Wild
be
discourage in the Ag area. (Wright County had the same
policy.)
The City is concerned with potential of division of
property for further subdivision (plan was shown)
The Transport,-. --inn Plan highlights classification of
streets.
PARK SYSTEMS:
Highlights potential -trails and parks (conceptual)
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The Parks Committee has been appointed and Carl Swenson is
Chairman of this committee. They will be looking at parks.
Money will be coming available as the subdivisions are
plat -Led, for parks and trails.
The neighborhood planning districts were discussed #'s
I - 9.
The meeting was then again tuned over to Ing Roskaft
who called -the residents to speak from the signed cards:
Bill Radzwill discussed legislature and the Municipal
Board mandated Rural/Urban taxing districts.
#1. GIL DARKS ALD, 7515 NE Quaday, Elk River 55330
He thanked the group for being here and said he doesn't think
the City has changed much from the Township. He talked about
his Sewage Treatment Plant and said it has 99.91-0 removal
tested which is outstanding and talked about Riverbend
upgrading. (at this point a resident questioned whether he
should be allowed to spread further and wasn't this meeting
for questions?) Roskaft said we had to give him a chance to
speak. Darkenwald said they have a plan for 250 acres of
land in this area. Darkenwald has copies of the documents to
Leave with the Planning Commission to review. (see attached
documents). He wanted to know the basis for the Primary and
Secondary use of #101? Licht answered that the focus of
prifflOry acccs.--- of 'Llic, C-1-ty it; Co Rd #39- Darkenwald
had received a letter from MN/DOT and read that and asked why
Licht had included the #42 and #101 intersection as secondary
when MN/DOT did not have a plan to take away access? Licht
said it had been stated in a meeting in 20 years or more the
highway would go to freeway status and at that time the
access would be taken away.
#2. RANDY THORSON. 14377 NE 87TH ST, Elk River MN 55330
Randy brought up the low land and water problems an 87TH
ST. He asked if City water and sewer were brought in how
would it be divided? Licht answered that If sewer and water
were pursued in detail the plan would be drawn out then. We
are simply saying that is an area where development should
concentrate. City Sewer is financially unfeasible. Otsego
is at least in a better position to go after assistance
because they have a plan. The Immediate Serv.tcc Area is
designated because that is where we want development to
occur. Bill Radzwill spoke on sewage systems. He said they
-take forever to build. Licht talked about septic systems and
a set time schedule for pumping,(There was applause). He
said it helps forestall the groundwater pollution problem if
you take care of your system.
#3. NANCY BRUNELL, 14526 NE 89TH ST, Elk River, MN
55330 - Septic pumping is recommended and that is good. said
Brunell. people came out to Otsego to get away from City
Life and don't want small lots. She had a petition with 42
signatures out of the 52 homes and no one liked the idea of
City ',ewer. She ar-,-,ked what -the possibility of. having -to pay
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for, mains, but not being hooked up? Licht answered that at
some point sewer needs to be looked at. option of selling
off a portion of land should be an option. We need to
maintain that option. Don't preclude that. Commercial
property may be an opportunity to introduce sewer to a
certain point, but the only thing that will push it in is
massive septic failure or ground water pollution. If the
community gets sewer and water would the area around it be
assessed asked Brunell? Licht answered probably not, because
we would not be able to show benefit.
#4. DAVID PETERSON, 14333 87th St, Elk River, MN 55330
Did riot speak
#5. LEILANI BROCK, 87TH ST, Elk River, MN 55330
Did not speak
#6. VERN HEIDNER, 13422 91ST ST NE, Elk River, MN 55330
Did riot speak
#7. RICHARD SAVITSKI, 14525 88TH ST, Elk River,MN 55330
Did not speak
#8. THOMAS GUIMONT, 8216 Needham Ave NE, Elk River, MN
Did not speak - had left meeting
#9. FRANK MILES,
Did not speak
#10. TOM CONSTANT, 13776 NE 85TH ST, Elk River, MN 55330
Did not speak
#11. CLEM DARKENWALD, 508 5-1/2 ST, Elk River, MN 55330
Clem stated that if someone comes in with
Commercial on this side here and they bring in
sewer and water, Don't believe them, you will
get sewer and water. He also stated that
Commercial is on #42 & #101 and he has sewer
and water.
#12. GEORGE YANKOUPE, 7535 NE River Road, Elk River, MN
Asked what plats are considered and why? and
is the City offering a monitoring system for
pollution? Licht said you can't undo what is
done. A central water system should be
considered.
#13. MIKE GIZA, 7848 O'Dean Ave NE, Elk River, MN, 55330
Did not speak
#14. DANIEL WEGENER, 9504 O'Day Ave NE, Elk River
I am hearing about sub -dividing and Immediate
Area. Why have one acre lots been approved?
Answer: They have been approved by Wl(j,t
riot Otsego. Otsego was only advisory.
Otsego's Sub -division Ordinance was passed for
Otsego in March of this year. Before that we
had only the County Ordinance to work with.
Applications have followed, but no further
sub -divisions have been granted. The trend
for development is down. Otsego had no basis
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to deny that Darkenwald's Plat because of the
County Land Use Plan and land sizes.
#15. BOB SPENCER 11088 - 95TH ST NE, Monticello, MN
553621 Did not Speak
#16. LAVERNA NOLL 15420 NE 89TH ST, Elk River, MN
On John LeFebvres property, we have heard
rumors that those are smaller lots. Licht
answered that according to the Ordinance,
within 350' the residents will be notified for
the Hearing. We don't want to say anything on
plats until we see plans and maps. Noll asked
what are our rights as petitioners? Radzwill
answered that the statute doesn't have any
provision on wholesale option to water and
sewer. Input on Information Meeting tonight
has more weight than the Petition. There is a
balancing that has to occur and we may have -to
allow people to develop their land also. it
is based on public health, safety and welfare.
#17. WALLY O'DELL - 26 Cannon Dr, Elk River, MN 55330
Talked about inconsistencies of Mr. Licht's
talk #101 will be a major interstate and does
MN/DOT have a plan? Licht answered. that there
is not a 20 year on the board plan, but it has
been indicated to us it will be upgraded in
the future (20 or so years). O'Dell had many
questions an #101 arid -4,142) Commercial corner.
He started with Mark Benson and talked to
other people in MN/DOT St Paul and Golden
Valley. Roskaft stated that we want everyone
to have a chance to speak.
#18. JOHN DARKENWALD - Quaday St, Elk River, MN 55330
Stated that they tried to get water and sewer
in Mississippi Parkwood but it was turned
down. They have one to two acre lots in
Mississippi Parkwood.
#19. JERRY AHLERS - 8599 Packard Ave NE, Elk River, MN
Did not speak
#20 NORMA FEILEN - (Address not given)
What was the Comprehensive Plan you had to
prepare to become a City and can we have a
copy of it? Licht answered that it is not
complete yet that is what we are working on
tonight. Preliminary copies are available at
-the City Office to purchase or on a loan
basis.
#21. JACQUIE ROGNLI - 8928 Ohland Ave NE, Otsego, MN
Thanked everyone for coming out tonight arid
gave them some information Pus to where to hear
news about the City and City Hall information.
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#22. RON TONA - 9277 Page Ave NE, Otsego, MN 55330
Asked will. we have a Fire Department?
Will there be a Police Department? School
Dist #728 Community Ed brochure. He did not
receive this. A hand show was asked for and a
lot of people in Otsego had received their
brochures. He said he was told at Community
Ed when he called that Otsego is a City now
and will not receive those brochures. He also
stated that we do not have much in our Zoning
Ordinance for keeping up yards. Licht stated
that we are not planning a new Fire or Police
Department we will remain as we have been and
we are workiric
g on the Ordinances now.
#23. RUSS VOGHT - 13949 91ST ST NE, Otsego, MN 55330
Did not speak (had left)
#24. GERARD ZACHMAN - 6194 Oakwood Ave, Otsego, MN
Asked if there is a Comprehensive Water Plan
available? Frankfort Township has been giving
us a water problem. Get a ground surface
water plan before you get building plans he
suggested. Licht stated that a Comprehensive
Storm Drainage Plan has been talked about and
will be looked at as the City grows. Relative
to drainage, the Federal Emergency Floodplain
is being looked at.
#25. AUDREY AXELSON, 5760 Mike's Rd, Finlayson,
Mn.55135
She stated that she is stuck with a Zoning
problem. She is in the buffer area E of
Nashua. What can she do? She can split 4 per
40, and not necessarily 10 acre lots. It can
be three 5 acre arid one 25 acre lot.
#26. MARY GRENINGER -6824 NE Nadala, Elk River, MN
Did not speak
#27. FLOYD GOENNER - Didn't give address
He stated that he is interested the upgrading
of Nashua Avenue and details. Licht stated
that he does not have that information as he
doesn't know the status. On our long range
development East of Nashua he has farm land
both East and West of Nashua and wants to know
if he will be assessed for water and sewer if
it comes in. He was told he does not have to
develop.
#28. NANCY ANDERSON - 9031 Mason Ave NE, Elk River, MN
Asked how was the Nashua dividing line picked?
Licht answered that it is projected as a
collector Street and serves -to isolate the
West side. It is also a drainage divide by
the City Engr. "Is bringing in development of
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similar size in the NE area intensifying the
problem" Anderson asked? Licht answered that
this is where Urban Development has taken
place. It doesn't make since to spread it all
over. It applies to all services riot only
sewer. Radzwill said also the issue is of
general concern and we need to look at water
sheds also. We have a lot of State Statutes
that may also force us to do things we don't
want to do.
*29. EDWARD GRENINGER - 6824 - NE Nadela, Elk River, MN
Asked why an #39 to #37 why a road thr-u there
(Nashua). Licht answered it is a long range
projection. It would only happen if
development occurred. The State Statute
allows -the County to turn bark roads to us.
We by statute have to accept it, war the reply
by Radzwill when Greninger asked about #120 -
changed to #37. Greninger asked how long in
the future is Nashua to 70TH ST? Licht
answered only when there is -development will
that happen. #122 and #37 and turn back to
City from Co.
#30. JUDY FLEMMER - 15565 NE 90TH ST, Elk River, MN
She stated she is Zoned as AG -2 and taxed as
AG -2. Rural/Urban Zoning District doesn't
mesh in Zoning plan. Licht stated that a
Public Hearing will be held an Rural/Urban
Zoning Districts.
Trig Roskaft introduced the Planning Commission and the Staff
that was present. Meeting adjourned at 10:30PM
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