08-07-91 Planning Commission MINCITY OF OTSEGO PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES OF AUGUST
7, 1991 AT 8PM:
Meeting was called to order at 8PM by Chairman Ing Roskaft.
Members present were as follows:
KATHY LEWIS ING ROSKAFT CARL SWENSON
MARK WALLACE LARRY FOURNIER BRUCE RASK
JIM KOLLES
Staff Present were as follows:
DAVID LICHT BOB KIRMIS ELAINE BEATTY
JUDY HUDSON
Council Members were as follows:
DOUG LINDENFELSER RON BLACK NORM FRESKE
Larry Fournier motioned to approve the Minutes of July
17, 1991. Bruce Rask seconded the Motion. Motion carried
unanimously.
Jacquie Rognli appeared before the Commission to appeal
to them for help in the Otsego Great River Road Fest Booth.
She told them we have a 20x40 tent and are asking the
Planning Commission and Council if they can help with the
booth for an hour during the day on 8/17/91, and spouses are
welcome. Rognli sent around a sign -tip sheet for them.
Roskaft then re -opened the Riverwood Hearing that had
been continued from July 17, 1991. He stated that a lot of
people made comments at the last meeting and he asked for any
new comments.
Bonnie Lee of Island View Estates presented a Petition
of her neighbors in Island View of within one mile of
Riverwood Conference Center. (See attached Petition)
Michelle Laverenz of Riverwood Conference Center said
that the Building Permit was not i.ssLied like she had thought
and apologized for that. They show the two buildings as one
in research. She stated that it had not been brought to
Managements attention at that time and the person responsible
was no longer in Riverwood's employment.
Bonnie Lee stated that if there had been a 1987 Permit,
it would not be good today.
Mae Spencer presented a Petition to the Planning
Commission (See attached Petition).
Arlene DeCandia stated that if a comment is to be made
it needs to be backed up by fact.
Paul Johnson of Island View Estates said that the
Council maybe could look at it.
Cheryl Sorbin an employee of Riverwood stated that in a
competetive market place and the things we are asking for is
only what other conference centers are asking for.
Roskaft stated that the things we may want have to be
within the Comprehensive Plan. We will decide tonight.
Roskaft stated that we will consider if we should allow the
restaurant for a trial period open to the public.
J1]_] :!nist.o of [s)atid View Esta(,es said she. lias lived
r there since 1978 and she is close to Riverwood. Her house
faces Riverwood and they have tived with Riverwood. She
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stated that they do hear activities in the evening in the
Summer. She stated that Olson's, a former neighbor had
called Riverwood to have them turn down the music.
Stewart Turnquist asked about the Pecos River Rope
Course and will they be able to have input into same.
Betty Perrault wanted to know what Stewart Turnquist was
talking about. She stated that she thought they had turned
the restaurant open to public down last time.
Tom Welch said they are advertising for help to replace
Summer help leaving in response as to why they are
advertising for help for the restaurant.
Mary Sue Bistodeau stated that she has worked at
Riverwood for eight years and she feels the restaurant should
be open to the public as far as she is concerned and she
stated she felt they would not have many more people then
they have now.
Judy Rockuam an employee of Riverwood stated that the
restaurant should be open on a trial basis and that Riverwood
deserves a fair chance.
Tim Walsdorf, chef of Riverwood for three years said he
supports it 100% and they are one of the most professional,
ethical businesses he has ever worked for. One year ago he
relocated his wife and child in this area.
Roman Svoboda stated that he lives down the road from
Riverwood and he is concerned about the area.
Sue Crum stated she lives on Kalenda and two weeks aero
the Sheriff's Deputy was called to Riverwood because of loud
music.
John Jesinski who lives in Island View Estates asked if
the Planning Commission ever looked at financial statements
of Riverwood?
Roskaft stated they did not. It is not a matter of
economics, it is a matter of zoning.
Licht said we are not interested in looking at
economics, we are interested in looking at harmony with the
neighborhood. The Hearing is for public comments to be
heard.
Gena Radjenovich gave some information for background.
She brought up the ad Riverwood was advertising their
Restaurant and Pecos River Rope Course.
Bonnie Rice has been an employee nine years at Riverwood
and stated that the ad in question was put out without
Riverwood knowing about it and they are sorry.
Mark Palmer of Island View Estates said it is the second
apology I've heard tonight. He stated he has been out here
for less than a year. The Building Permits are not in
possession. They are expanding and getting larger and if
exceptions are made for them, are there exceptions for other
businesses?
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Arlene DeCandia wanted to talk.
Sarenva DeCandia stated she works at Riverwood as a
Receptionist she stated that people are getting involved in
her parents relationship. Roskaft stated we would go on with
the meeting.
Arlene DeCandia stated she feels terrible that a lot of
people are being hurt and a lot of mean things are being
said. We want to have people get along. We have volunteered
to pay for private signs. We will post the perimeter. We
will plant trees for a visual and sound buffer. We would
like to work together. She stated that the article about
herself was a positive image for her.
Don Felber of Island View Estates stated that at the
last meeting the restaurant open to the public was voted
down. How did it come about to reconsider it on a trial
basis?
Licht stated that the restaurant was voted down. A
comment was made to try it on a trial basis by a formal
letter submitted. Otherwise if it isn't discussed, it can go
all the way to the Council.
Stewart Turnquist wants to comment on Licht's report on
location of the rope course. At the last meeting it was
discussed to expand Riverwood to include 11 acres into
Riverwood's PUD, with the Rope Course on the eleven acres.
Turnquist stated that his parents house is there and his
future home is to be constructed there and he is currently
constructing a garage there.
Licht stated NAC has put together a list of items to be
considered. He passed the list out (See Attached).
Roskaft asked for any other discussion.
Carl Swenson said that at the last meeting we discussed
the expansion of the restaurant and I believe the consensus
was at that time that the expansion of the restaurant was not
in agreement with the Comprehensive Plan and I fail to
understand how this trial period will help. It is an
expansion of a commercial activity in a residential area. I
speak against the trial period.
Carl Swenson motioned not to suggest a trial period for
the restaurant open to the public. Mark Wallace seconded.
Swenson added that the reason for denial of the trial period
of the expansion of the restaurant is because it is against
the Comprehensive Plan, both in word and intent. Mark
Wallace added it opens it tip to other people that may want
the same thing.
Larry Fournier felt it was not appropriate because it
had been voted down. All voted in favor except Bruce Rask.
B. Pecos River
Roskaft stated the Planning Commission had received two
letters, one from Mr Turnquist and one from Arlene DeCandia,
both dated July 31, 1991 and they will be put in the minutes
of the meeting. Kathy Lewis stated we had received one other
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letter.
Carl Swenson stated that at the last meeting the letters
were read and asked if the letters should be read.
Commission agreed and Elaine Beatty read the three letters
(See attached letters).
Licht suggested that if anyone wants to read any more
letters, we should make them available to the public during
office hours.
The July 29, 1991 NAC's Report on Pecos River Operation
Bob Kirmis summarized the activities. Four were described
and a .list of conditions as part of a trial period were part
of it. Roskaft read the list to the audience. (Memo of July
29, 1991 NAC Report is attached).
Lewis asked if he would be reading all of the memo?
Licht said that he didn't have to as it was made available.
Lewis asked if there was any more information on the
Pecos River setup? Kirmis said all the information he had
was provided by Riverwood. Lewis was tinder the impression
there was only one zip line proposed.
Tom Welch said there was only one proposed. The one in
New Mexico is much larger, On this location is there some
idea what events are to be taking place'? The lower eleven
acres is where the zip line is to be. the other three
apparatuses will be on the upper portion of the land.
Larry Fournier asked if Roskaft assumes the Commission
is all in agreement of the other items on the report.
Tom Welch pointed out the zip line and other three
apparatuses (1) Wall, (2) Bell.Tower and (3) Climbing Tower
is what will be at Riverwood.
Michelle Laverenz said that one thing that Pecos River
is striving for is lower initiative, smaller versions of this
course,
Fournier stated that the climbing tower is 40' high and
would it be possible to have it on the lower area?
Arlene DeCandia said they would like to have it close to
the building because of it being the furthest area away from
the Cyphers.
Bonnie Rice of Riverwood explained that the Rope Course
and Zip Line is a self awareness type of thing. She stated
she had gone thru the course.
Fournier stated the reason why they might want to move
the apparatus is because of screening. 11AM to 4PM was the
time suggested for the Rope Course. The suggestion of after
ten complaints on Riverwood, the Zoning Administrator shall
contact the City Council.
Roskaft asked for any further discussion.
Lewis said we have previously approved the concept, but
Mi the L 1 e Laverenz indicated that t:hev are not reaciv to build
at this time.
Fournier stated then would like approval now so if it
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occurs they are all ready to go.
Wallace asked if it couldn't be brought up at the time
of building the course?
Licht stated now is the time to address this or riot.
Wallace stated his voting on this was based on a resort
activity.
Licht said he is not taking issue on that. He said you
have every right to ask for specifics. Is it compatible.
Can it exist in harmony.
Laverenz stated she needed to comment on restrictions.
They are in agreement with most of this, but the course can
go from five to six o'clock in the evert i.ng . Generally they
would be done by four o'clock, but we would be more
comfortable with the six o'clock for an ending time. We
could agree to two days a week. It would never be more than
twice a week.
Licht said the Commission needs to resolve the specific
times.
Laverenz stated groups that come to Riverwood have to
conte out on a specific day or time.
Wallace Motioned to deny conditions based on two things,
resort and resort activities. He felt this was a business
opportunity. He said according to Wright County it is a
resort. Because of the hours it is not a resort activity.
Licht said we are dealing under our own Ordinance now,
not t;he Countv Ordinance. It needs to specified.
Wallace motioned to deny the Pecos River Course, based
on the fact that he feels the Pecos River Course does not fit
into the PUD.
Roskaft asked for a second.
Swenson seconded the motion.
Rask stated that last meeting we discussed they needed
to book a ,year in advance.
Laverenz said one to one and one -halt' years or it can be
one month.
Motion was voted on and Wallace and Swenson voted
for, with Rask, Fournier, Roskaft, Kolles and Lewis against
the motion.
A residence in the audience asked for a clarification of
the motion.
Fournier stated that we should take each condition one
by one.
Swenson brought up that use acceptabili-ty is what.
Wallace was voting for and in Swenson's opinion this kind of
activity is a commercial activity and that is the reason he
is in opposition, Swenson stated we should have comment from
every member of. the Commission.
Roskaft, stated that the Concept was approved at the July
1 7 , 199l. meryti.itq.
Swenson wi.tbdrew h i.s question.
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July 29, 1991 Report by NAC (page 6 Prospective Conditions)
1. All outdoor events are to occur between the hours of
11AM and 4PM.
Fournier motioned to accept No. 1 above with the time from
11AM to 4PM. Kathy Lewis seconded the motion. Motion
carried unanimously.
2. Weather permitting, a specific day or days of the
week shall be designated for various course events and the
neighboring property owners advised of such dates and any
changes.
Fournier motioned approval of #2 with neighbors within 350'of
Riverwood's property line be noticed. Bruce Rask seconded.
Swenson asked what is considered as neiOlbors? Licht
siiggest.ed within 350'Riverwood would be responsible for
riot ifi_ cat ion. Rask said a lot of people are here from Island
View Estates area and it's there community so they should be
notified. A resident stated that maybe the top one-half of
Island View Estates should be notified. Roskaft suggested
350'. Motion carried unanimously.
3. No Pecos River event apparatus shal] exceed 40' in
he i.ght .
Rask motioned to accept #3. Kolles seconded the motion.
Fournier asked if we want the pole forty Moot high? Licht
stated a pole is not an imposing mark on the landscape.
Motion carried unanimously.
4. No event apparatus shrill Lie Less than 100' from
adjacent, property lines.
Mark Wallace motioned that the apparatus shall not lie
less than 100' from the property line. Jim Kolles seconded
the motion. Motion carried unanimously.
5. A1.1. event apparatus shall be adegnat.el.v screened
from view of neighboring residences via vegetation and/or
fencing or combination thereof.
Licht clarified that:. the pole is not intended to he screened.
A l_ 1_ the ogit i pment and structures shall be earthtone in co f or
with the exception of the pole and al -1 equipment and/or
activity areas not be viewed from the river except the pol_e.
Fournier motioned to accept #5 with Licht's addition. Carl
Swenson seconded. Motion carried unanimously.
6. Event apparatus must be disassembled thirty days
following use termination.
Rask motioned that the trial time be thirty days. Kolles
seconded. Fournier asked it it could be torn down in thirty
days. DeCandia said .yes. Motion carried unanimously.
7. Noise Generated by the Pecos R.i_ver events shall not
exceed levels which constitute a "nuisance" as described by
Ordinance.
ki.cht clarified and stated that the City is working on a
Nuisance Ordinance..
Wallace motioned to accept #7 above. Fournier seconded the
motion. Motion carried unanimously.
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8. All event uses must be accessible to emergency
vehicles.
Fournier motioned to adopt #8. Wallace seconded the motion.
Motion carried unanimously.
9. All event apparatus are subject to approval by the
Buildi.na Inspector to ensure their safety.
Rask motioned to accept. Fournier seconded the motion.
Motion carried unanimously.
10. The Zoning Administrator, after receiving ten (10)
complaints in writing, shall schedule a Hearing and notify
the City Council.
Fournier motioned to adopt #10. Wallace seconded the motion.
Motion carried unanimously.
11.. Detailed specific site and buildin-a plans should be
Provided before any final approval, including locations and
apparatuses.
Lewis motioned to adopt #11. Kolles seconded the motion.
Motion carried unanimously.
Wallace asked Riverwood if they had a timeline? Arlene
DeCandia said they would only do if they had a referral.
Licht, said that prior to January L, 1993 the City will
evaluate Pecos River Operation and determine if itshould
continue.
Lewis stated in other words, they don't have
indefi.nitety to try it out.
Wallace motioned to have Pecos River be on a trial period to
be evaluated before January 1, 1993. Fournier seconded the
motion. Motion carried unanimously.
�.. Bliiffhotise E;xpa.nsi.on/Bui Ldine� Connection
L. Total Rooms
2. Total Offices
3. Storaae and Accessory
Licht nave an overview of what had expired. We found out
that the footings were notput in with a buildina permit.
Also there has been a number of modifications from what the
approved plans were and whatthey are today Licht said. Mr
Kirmis had forwarded a report of July 31, 1991 as to number
of rooms. (see attached report.). The new rooms to be added
are total of eighteen (18) proposed, (See attached Memo from
NAC, pink dated August. 7, 1991).
Arlene lleC:andia, showed a picture of the building plans
to the Ptanninv Commission.
Roskaff- asked if we have these plan: so the Building
Cnsoect.nr can Yo over these plans'?
Licht said we. need to define what i.s there and what we
wi11. vet.. The footineys are a. building code problem.
Laverenz said the sprinkler system can be used with the
pool.
Rnska l't. I'e L ( we :^linin l d Ce ( apprn-\,a I from t:lie Bu i 1 cl i nq
1 nsi>ector .
Arl.ene OeC,andia had t>Lans of proposed expansion.
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Fournier motioned to approve Bluff House Expansion with
eighteen new rooms and one Conference Room and building
expansion. Rask seconded the motion. Motion carried, with
Swenson and Wallace opposing.
D. Existing House - Use
E. Garage
F. Homestead Acreage
G. Conference Center - Definition
Licht stated D,E,F & G fall under the eleven (11 acres). By
including the property in the PUD it is sub.iect to PUD and
Contract. Anv further use to it is subject to PUD. Now,
house and garage are two items that need to be looked at.
The house is proposed to be used as caretakers residence or
storage. Garage is proposed for maintenance and shop. You
can treat the eleven (11) acres separately and independent.
DeCandia stated Riverwood's sewer is there on the 11
acres also.
Licht stated that is why we. need PUD on i -t.
Stewart Turnquist stated transferring it out. of
Residential. would have a big impact on his parents, DeCandia
st.at.ed Turnquist and DeCandia had given a life estate to his
parents.
Licht stated he i_s going by comments from Mr Turriqui.st
when tie asked for a variance Last. Scunmer. Licht. said a
temporary use is very relevant, More d i.sctiss ion on what the
garage would be used for was had.
Rask asked if the 1.1 acres is included in the PUD does
t.h,t mean it; is Residential? Can it be sold as part. of PUD?
Licht said being tied into the PUD, to be sold it would
have to come tinder a stab -division. to divide it off' the
balance of the PUD. A caretakers residence is what is being
requested. Licht said he assumes that, property ownership
would stay one Facility. Lf' it was rented or sold to someone
else, it. would have to come back into the Planning
Commission.
Rask motioned that D, E, & F. existing house be used as the
caretakers residence and/or storage and the garage utilized
as shop/maintenance facility and the eleven acres (11) be
implemented into the PUD for casual walking and all tied into
the PUD. Lewis seconded the motion. Motion carried
unanimously.
Licht said a maJor Concern on basic terminology a
definition needs to be put forth:
1. MOTEL - Transient. Residents
2. CONFERENCE CENTER - Meeting room/guest rooms/
accessory restaurant and activities/ not including
transient residents
One resident who worked at Riverwood said a good wav of
l nad i rie' -it de P i n i nv it is catered events /meet i ngs/restaurant
and Lounge/m i n i mium of 60% o f b is i.ness 1'or mee t l.n,' re Lated
activities.
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Licht said no motel service should be offered (transient).
What scares him is the reference to open to the prnblic.
He stated he wanted an opinion from the Planning Commission.
Fournier motioned to accept Licht's definition of a
Conference Center which is a MOTEL - is transient as compared
to Conference Center has reservations.
Wallace said he was worried abort the description it' it
were sold to someone el -se. The Cornt'erenc.e tenter det i_n i ti on
was discussed. Lewis seconded the motion.
Wallace asked if the motion fails, will it be left. open
for another time'?
Motion carried unanimously.
ff. . Site Plan Issr.res
A. Access Road - Public or Private
B. Parking
1. 'Total Requirement
2. Deferment,
C. Load.ina Space
D. Landscaping/Buffers
1, Pecos River Areas
2. Parking/Loading
Licht recommends a minimum of 33' be as easement on this
road into the residence. 33' minimum should be made into
pub] i.c access. It should be signed as "private drive". i tv
won't accept maintenance of it.
Roskaft asked about maintenance respons_ibi l.it i es . 1,4 cht
said the City does not. have to accept maintenance unt i] it is
brought up to code, etc.
Fournier asked If there is an a,dvantaQe to a.ciiu i r i.nV
easements now? You have potential three residents in that
irea. why tiel.av'? Why now resolve now':'
Bob Spencer said his hoose is 5k' from I.he Lot Line now.
Ti.trngLti.st asked if R.iverwoot:t had access t.o tile dri_vewavY
Licht said there wi_1.1. be three houses in terms of access with
maintenance trucks and emergency vehicles.
Lewis motioned to have 33' be turned over to the City
under the assumption that the City will not take over
maintenance until it is brought up to standard and so
constructed. Bruce Rask seconded the motion.
Swenson questioned if two homes to the East are using
the driveway, who is responsible for the maintenance'?
DeCandia agreed to accept responsibility for the maintenance.
It could be stipulated in the PIJD.
Motion carried. with Fournier voting no.
L i rht asked Fournier why he voted no',' Fournier said lie
doesn't understand how we wotild, get the road developed.
Licht explained to him.
Parking numbers wi L L change chie to chanve in units. A _
ren i Tit waG ra i sPd as 1r) weal her =r deferment ^hnit I d he
considered. 11 i ,:aI I i 1 0-a ti I,e worlc(:!d C)uI . Vott need Lo
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act upon i -f you would consider deferment..
Rask motioned to consider the deferment approach. Lewis
seconded.
Fournier asked how deferment would be determined? Licht
said the required number of spaces, applicant will Justify
and the Planner will come to the Planning Commission with
i.rn l'ortnat i on . Motion carried unanimously.
C k D hicht brotight up his report. of June 17, 199 L .
Loadi.n5 space recommended, Al nt.ilities instal Led
underrotrnd/s ininy for drive and pub.l i c easement/cont.olrr mar)
Per City Engineer/ Parking Lot DRYOUt and the davcare was
iroT.)j d/ 1 otini'e addition is sub.iect to Ci tv approval/ site
p l -an i denti ry nn := i to stor•a:R�e/ Lnadi na areas/veh.i cle t nares
and F--,4r(-.ss etc. (see report) No v i_sual obstructions should
or -Cllr. Trash should be in closed containers if outside/
sivnine needs review, etc 18 & 19,
Swenson motioned to approve I., Lcht' s recommendation.
)� Wa l 1 ace seconded the mot. -ion. AL I- agreed.
III. Subdivision - Lot Consolidating
Kirmis outlined one parc•.et,
Fournier motioned to put all of Riverwoods separate lots into
one lot making it sub.iect to the PUD Ordinance and
subdivision Ordinance and one legal description and tax
number. Rask seconded the motion. Motion carried
unanimously. IV. Zoning
A. PUD
B. Wild and Scenic:
There wi l.l. he doable 'Zon.ini2� classification appL i.ed t.o rhe
North 1 e-�4 of PUI).
Wallace motioned to accept it as Zoning of Wild and Scenic in
con.iunction with PUD and it not be less strict then Wild and
Scenic Zoning. Some (1.i ccuss i on was had on PUP and how it
applies. Swenson seconded the motion.
Rask questioned Pecos Rivet, and the Lour activities were
not. spelled otrt. Licht said that. the Concept Approval- was
11st-. that , Lt w i 1 L be sped i 1' i ed. A contract wi.l L be
drafted. Motion carried unanimously.
Lic;hl: said we have a Public Hearina on the Comprehensive
PLan scheduLed t'or 8/21/91. We need a Special Planning
Commission Meeting 8/14/91 at 8PM to qo over the Comp. Plan.
The 9th of September will be Riverwood's Council Hearing.
Fournier motioned to adjourn the meeting. Wallace
( seconded the motion. Motion carried unanimously.
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Elaine Beatty/Recording Secretary eb
TO: David Licht
FROM: Bob Kirmis
DATE: 7 August 1991
RE: Otsego - Riverwood Conference Center
FILE NO: 176.02 - 91.05
At your request, I have contacted Michelle Lavrenz of the
Riverwood Conference Center in regard to a number of questions
raised concerning their intended plans for the facility.
Offices. According to Ms. Lavrenz, four offices exist within the
Riverwood Center which have been incidentally converted from
guest rooms. No new offices have been proposed as part of
Riverwood's proposed expansion.
Storage Rooms. Apparently, Riverwood has one storage room which
has been converted from a former guest room. No new storage
rooms are proposed in Riverwood's expansion plans.
Conference Rooms. Ms. Lavrenz indicated that Riverwood currently
has five conference rooms (capacity unspecified). As part of the `
facility expansion plan, one additional conference room (in
Pavilion) has been proposed.
OFFICE/STORAGE/CONFERENCE ROOM SUMMARY
Existing Proposed
Offices 4 0
Storage Rooms 1 0
Conference Rooms 5 1*
* Proposed conference room to be located in
Pavilion.
Property Residents. Ms. Lavrenz indicated that Riverwood shall
not have any full time residents upon the subject site.
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Otseg _ , tinning Commission -
FROM:
David Licht/Bob Kirmis
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7 August 1991
RE:
Otsego Riverwood Conference Center.
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176.02 -, 91.05 (612) 595-9636
FILE NO.:
FAX (612) 595-9837
In an attempt, to provide some further organization to the
discussion .on the Riverwood Conference Center request, we
offer the following summary outline.
I•. Use Issues
A. Restaurant - Bar'- Request for Trial' Period
B. Pecos River
1. Use Acceptability .
Location
Conditions/Time Limit Trial Period
C. Bluffhouse Expansion/Building Connection
1. Total Rooms
2. Total Offices
3. Storage and Accessory
D. Existing House - Use
E. Garage
F. Homestead. Acreage
G. Conference Center - Definition
II. Site Plan Issues
A. Access Road - Public or.Private
B. Parking
1. Total Requirement
2. Deferment
C. Loading Space
D. Landscaping/Buffers
1. Pecos River Areas
2. Parking/Loading
III. Subdivision -Lot Consolidation
IV. Zoning
A. PUD
B. Wild and Scenic
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MEMORANDUM
TO: Otsego Mayor and City Council
Otsego Planning Commission
FROM: Robert Kirmis/David Licht
DATE: 29 July 1991
RE: Otsego - Riverwood Conference Center
FILE NO: 176.02 - 91.05
BACKGROUND
At the request of the Planning Commission, our office;, has
prepared a listing of conditions which relate to the Commission s
contingent approval of the Riverwood Center's proposed Pecos
River activities. At its 17 July meeting, the Commission gave
concept approval to Riverwood to allow Pecos RivOr Learning
CRr,(:er activities upon their property, Approval was, however,
cor-ringent upon the formulation of a specialized set of
conditions aimed at reducing potential negative impacts of tilt:
various activities.
PECOS RIVER EVENTS
According to information received from
representatives, four Pecos River outdoor events
provided. A verbatim description of these events, as
by Riverwood, is presented below.
Attached for reference:
Exhibit A - Proposed Pecos River Event Areas
Riverwood
are to be
submitted
5775 Wayzata Blvd. • Suite 555 . St. Louis Park, MN 55416 - (612) 595-9636•Fax. 595.9837
1.
CLIMBING TOWER
Three climbers work together to climb a steep 40 foot wall.
Learning Objectives and Outcomes:
o A successful climb requires a total, team effort.
Participants must crew(:e a strategic plan, remain
flexible when that plan meets reality, help each other
through the tough sections, and act decisively before
they become fatigued.
o Participants experience "Playing to Win" as a team.
Some Climbers achieve heights they could never reach
alone through the support; and encouragement of their
team.
o Participants who ordinarily abandon their team to push
through difficult obstacles experience their team as a
resource for pointing out hand and foot holds outside
their view.
o 'reams experience the bonding and shared accomplishment
that accompany a challenging task.
O Climbers who do not make it to the top but who clearly
Push beyond their comfort zone, experience, through the
s1,pport of their team, the PRLC definition of winning
as "going as far as I can using all that I've got
o Participants experience this event as a total team
effort with the team on the ground adding valuable
persr)ective and encouragement to those climbing the
tower.
Pre -Event=
o Review staff roles
o Checkevent - guys, ropes, knots, pegs, Sticht plat,
anchors
o Ensure that staff are familiar with Sticht plate use,
and that the plates are properly threaded
Event Overview:
o Overall explanation of what the clients will do
0 Medical briefing
Demonstrate safe and effective climbing techniques,
avoid pulling on rope, grabbing sides of wall
(splinters) and cables at top (pinch fingers)
Explain safe lowering ^ hold knot;, sit back in harness,
feet apart, walk down in L shape, watch for pegs
2
2,
o Establish consistent belay and lock checks
o Explain back up belays to clients
THE WALL
All teams work together to get everyone oven a 13 foot
vertical blank wail,
Learning Objectives and Outcomes:
o The adventure learning day is brought to a dramatic
Close as all teams come together to experience the
remarkable power and peak performance generated when
empowered learning teams join in collaborative effort.
o At the base of the wall, teams encounter a seemingly
insurmountable obstacle, which metaphorically
symbolizes the barriers that organization must face and
overcome together. Getting their entire team safely
oN•er the wail is a "significant emotional event' which
will serve a-; a reminder durilig future challenges of
the power of 'laying to Win as team.
o All learnings and theines of the day are brought
together and utilized, serving to impel participants
into making the shift from "Me to Well creaking a new
game and new culture based upon taste.
Pre -Events
o Review staff roles
o Know your client's
o Check condition
padding, ladder
3. THE POLE
medical limitations
Of Wall - nails, splinters, braces,
Participants climb a 25 foot pole, balance on top, and turn
to leap for a bell hanging seven feet away. They are then
lowered to the ground in their safety system.
Learning Objectives and Outcomes:
o Participants who ordinarily "play not to Tose" when
confronted with difficult challenges find the group
support necessary to confront their fears, discover
their courage, and "Play to Win",
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o Participants who do not perform optimally in a
traditional, competitive environment, experience the
reduction of performance anxiety and the enhanced
Performance achieved within a supportive team
environment.
o "Lone Ranger## participants, not ordinarily
pp
ortive
of their team, experience the exhilaration of watching
othersppursue and overcome goals that appear
unattainable.
o Participants who do not make it to the top of the pole
Or
comforttzone, experiencebut
the who
PRLCaderly finiti beyond their
as "going as far as z can using all that I'Veogot,,.
Participants experience "Stop, Challenge, Choose", as a
powerful technique for making conscious choices based
upon fact, rather than upon irrational fears or habits.
o Encouraged by the dramatic memory of their success on
the pole, participants overcome even greater challenges
at work and in their daily lives.
Pre -Event=
o Check event
tight, - guys, ropes, gloves, ladders tied, rungs
knob, carabineers
o Review staff roles
o Know client's medical limitations
Event Overview:
o Give overvi.ow of event - sequence, roles
o Medical briefing
o Safety briefing - do not lunge for disc,ste
disc (put foot on it first), don't graropesporzngbeontnto
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safer to fall off than climb down, long hair tucked in
ll
o Establish appropriate lock and belay checks
o Belay briefing - tight going up, ready to pull when
standing up, looser standing top of disc, take up slack
when climber jumps
o Check with participants for desired support
ZIPLYNE
Each site with a zip has a different set up as well as a
different ascent to the zip. The procedures for them will
vary, but the principles are all the same. Learn the
specific procedures for your site.
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Participants cross the Pecos River on a
artnerine
and ascend the Pecos cliff by trail and ladder. Secureddto
Pulley systems that ride on overhead cabl
leap from the cliff and es, participants
zip down the cables to the field
below.
Learning Objectives and Outcomes:
o Participants experience the exhilaration of confronting
a terrifying challenge as they discover the inner
strength and team support necessary to break through
their fear, let go, and take a leap.
o Participants experience "Stop, Challenge, Choose".
This powerful technique enables them to ,stop,,
automatic responses to stressful situations,
��challenge" their fears and self-imposed boundaries and
choose to take a step beyond those boundaries,
o Participants experience the PRLC concepts of
challenging our "maps" and "comfort zones", letting to
of unproductive "endings", and taking a leap through
difficult "transitions".
o Fear shifts to exhilaration as participants leap from
the cliff. The dramatic memory of this positive risk-
ing taking experience encourages participants to view
future challenges as opportunities and adventures,
rather than dangers and threats.
Pre -Event:
o Review staff roles
o Check event - zip cable anchors, other guy lines
o Check two person bridge - anchors, trails, rescue
system
o Check event gear - pulleys, daisychains, rescue rope
and equipment, staff harnesses and helmets
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PROSPECTIVE CONDITIONS
As a means of minimizing potential negative impacts from these
cited "events", the following conditions should be considered as
contingencies of Pecos River event approval.
-1-1• All outdoor events are to occur between the hours of 11:00
AM and 4:00 pM.
2. Weather permitting, a specific day or days of the week shall
be designated for various course events and the neighboring
Property owners advised of such dates and any changes.
3. No PeCos River event apparatus shall exceed 40 feet in
height.
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No event apparatus shall lie less than /
adjacent property lines. feet from
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All event apparatus shall be adequately
of neighboring screened from view
residences via
vegetation and/or fencing or
combination thereof.
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Event apparatus must be disassembled days
following use termination.
i.
Noise generated by the Pecos River events shall not exceed
ed
levels which constitute a "nuisance"
as described
Ordinance.by
B.
All event uses must be accessible to emergency vehicles.
9.
All event apparatus are subject to approval by the Building
Inspector to ensure their safety.
Cf
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River
aforementioned conditions are intended to
event activities. regulate the Pecos
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as
be
noted that thestipulations
presented are not unchangeable and additional
imposed as determined appropriate by the Ciconditions may
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Otsego Planning Commission
Riverwood Conference Center Neighbors
We are signing this petition in order to register our disagreement with the
proposed expansion of Riverwood Conference Center.
1. We are against the restaurant being changed over to serve the public.
2. We are against the addition of more guest rooms,
3. We are against the rezoning of the 11 acre tract of land that is held as a
personal asset by Arlene DeCandia, the owner of Riverwood, so as to make it
part of the Riverwood Conference Center.
4. We are against addition of the Pecos River Learning Center Ropes Course
onto the 1 1 acre tract of land (point 3).
5. We are against the conversion of the garage that is located on the 1 1
acre tract of land (point 3) into a storage area for Riverwood. The building
permit clearly states that it is not to be used for Riverwood purposes.
Please give careful consideration to all of these points because they
concern all of us.
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Petition To:
Otsego Mayor and City Council
Otsego Planning Commission
From: Riaerwood Conference Center Neighbors
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Petition To: Otsego Mayor and City Council
Otsego Planning Commission
From: RiverYvood Conference Center Neighbors
We are inagreement with all of the points listed on page one of this memo.
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Dear Planning Commission, City of Otsego:
am writing this letter to you to protest the irreverent treatment I feel I received at the
recent public hearings on Riverwood's application for PUD zoning. I am extremely
disappointed that Riverwood is apparently not welcome in the community by several
of our neighbors and, I regret, some committee members. I am particularly outraged
by many of the statements made by members of the public during these public
hearings and by the planning commission's tolerance of and acquiescence in those
statements. To date, the following accusations have been quoted directly from letters
read and comments made at your committee hearing:
Attempting to build a "beer hall type" drinking establishment open at all hours.
"Promoting drinking and driving".
Promoting loud "canoe races, volleyball, softball games, and God knows what"
Promoting "medical emergencies, river emergencies, or even the regular clients
who need to be taken to the county detox center".
Encouraging people into the community who "snatch children".
Decreasing property values as "The addition of the public facility will deduct
from residential real estate values".
And worse, as quoted from a neighbor directly to me...
"the reason you are opening the restaurant to the public was so your guests
would get drunk and then rent a room for the night for purposes of sex and
therefore make more money".
I have attempted to answer all questions put to me and to advance our application in
an honest, forthright and cooperative manner. I simply cannot believe that the
planning commission has permitted our application to be met by such outrageous lies.
I cannot believe that the planning commission sat utterly silently and did nothing to
curb or even discourage comments such as the claim that our conference goers are
a kidnapping threat. I have sat through two such free-for-alls now, and I do hope
there will be some effort on the part of the planning commission to introduce some
dignity and decorum to the process. I do not intend to endure another night of
personal attacks.
Mverwood
CONFERENCE CENTER
10990 9>th Street Northeast • .11ontieello, Minnesota )) 362
612-441-6833 Metro • 612-441-31S6 FAX
I, along with my outraged employees and their families, cannot believe how little their
opinions mattered relative to their submitted petition. Forty-eight signatures were
discounted. Many live in this community.
Beside lies there was a blatant attempt to create confusion in the minds of the
committee by saying that:
Stewart and I are still married and therefore action should be delayed. Point in
fact - we have been divorced since March 17, 1989.
That ownership of Riverwood and the 11 acres is unclear. Volumes of
documentation exist that I am sole owner.
That the 11 acres is not part of Riverwood. This is utterly absurd.
Twelve years ago we were granted permission to create Riverwood and it seems some
of you have resented our existence ever since. We feel that roadblocks are constantly
thrown before us, that our requests are shunned as if we are a blight upon this
community, that we have to be tolerated, but certainly not supported. The idea that
we shouldn't be part of this "residential community" is thrown up in my face every
time I come before this committee. We are made to feel like outsiders even though
I have lived and worked here for twenty-one years.
My personal response to this rejection was to try to build your confidence by
demonstrating our ability and dedication to being a contributing member of this
community. We wanted acceptance and understanding. I vowed to provide quality
employment to youngsters experiencing their first jobs or putting themselves through
college, to mothers who needed flexible hours and to be near their children, to retired
folks who wanted to remain active, and to any member of this community who
wanted a chance regardless of their experience, education, or credentials.
further determined to create a beautiful environment for which employees, guests,
and the community could be proud. Wetlands, woodlands, and the scenic river area
are maintained with care.
We endeavored to run this business with respect and affection for this community,
but it has become sadly clear that no matter how hard we try and how unblemished
our reputation, there continues to be members of this committee and of this
community who regret our ever being here and who want us gone.
It is frightening and appalling that these public proceedings have become little more
than a witch hunt. Personal issues should not be open for public discussion.
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Hundreds of people trust and support our efforts in this community, however, it is
always a small, very focal group that dominates and who create confusion. They
have absolutely nothing more to offer in the way of fact except that occasionally they
can hear or see our guests!
Furthermore, why was discussion allowed about a liquor license when we have not
even made application to do so?
Why was there an attempt for a "public vote" by a committee member to regulate the
Pecos River ropes course on a trail basis? This was not a decision that should have
been allowed by people clearly in opposition to us. This was obvious pandering to the
crowd. This I believe to be illegal.
Those who were the most vehement in their opposition to Riverwood were also those
who knew the least about our plans because they rejected our every effort to receive
a first-hand account directly from Tom Welch of Riverwood. We were sensitive to the
need to clearly present our plans to these same individuals. We hoped that they
would be willing to experience the type of restaurant we envisioned, that they could
see the small lounge area for guests waiting for dinner, see the decor so they would
know the types of clients we wanted to attract, experience our beautiful surroundings
so that they would realize how much we had to gain by protecting the beauty and
serenity of Riverwood from loud or unruly groups. Discuss our hours of operation,
traffic control plans, numbers of guest anticipated, and any other issue relative to the
matter. But every one of them, with the exception of Joyce Dewey, choose to
believe pre -conceived notions without the benefit of reality. Instead, they come to the
hearings as "experts" about our intentions, accuse us of unbelievable smut, make fun
of our efforts, and snicker when we present our case.
We are adamant that we are not asking for anything more than what other conference
centers need to exist --- a restaurant open to the public to create steady employment,
outdoor experience courses, guestrooms and meeting rooms, and a "draw" which for
us is the river. We deserve and need a fighting chance against our competitive giants.
Without the survival of Riverwood the city stands to lose between $40,000 and
$50,000 in taxes.
To suggest that the limited use of our restaurant by the public will significantly change
the nature of our business and not be harmonious with this area is simply not so.
Let's test the theory however, allowing us to open on a controlled basis under a PUD.
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In spite of the harsh and harmful words I do not feel that I need to apologize for
creating a business which has benefitted my family and the surrounding community
and their families, for creating jobs, and for managing an outstanding Minnesota
company. Their efforts will certainly not deter my personal goal of continuing to
realize my definition of success, which is to influence this world in a positive way, in
an ever -widening circle of family, employees, and community.
It is time to see the merits of having a committed business in this community and to
protect our rights as citizens to exist and prosper. This city may have some problems
but Riverwood is not one of them!
Sincerely,
Arlene M. De Candia
President
cc: Otsego City Council Members
Elaine Beatty
David Licht
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Ms. Arlene M. DeCandia
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Riverwood Conference Center
10990 - 95th Street NE
Monticello, Minnesota 55362
Dear Arlene:
Congratulations to you on being chosen as a finalist for the 1991 Entrepreneur of the
Year Award for a "Woman's" business. You can be proud of your accomplishments. It
is people like you who make Minnesota a winner. You represent the very best ideals in
our society. Your life has been a focus on taking risk, creating success, and ultimately
establishing quality employment opportunities.
As Governor, I will do everything I can to make certain that we keep the entrepreneur
spirit.
Congratulations on your well-deserved recognition.
armest personal regards,
ARNE H. CARLSON
Governor
An Equal Opportunity Employer
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July 30, 1991
City of Otsego
Elaine Beatty, Zoning
13474 NE 95th Street
Otsego, MN 55330
Dear Elaine;
Administrator
1990
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FILE NO.
PUD ORDINANCE AND RIVERWOOD. CONFERENCE CENTER; MISSISSIPPI RIVER
Thank you for sending me a copy of your newly adopted PUD Ordinance and the minutes relating to
the Riverwood Conference Center proposal. I have also received a letter from Robert Mrmis, your
consulting planner, in response to my July 9, 1991 letter on this subject. Mr. Kirmis now proposes to
apply both the new PUD District and the Wild & Scenic River District jointly to the portion of the
Riverwood Conference Center located in the Wild & Scenic District. Such a proposal would satisfy my
concerns. Also, approval of DNR would not be required, since none of the minimum standards applying
to this property would be amended.
I understand that a proposed use of the portion of the Riverwood Conference Center property located
in the Wild & Scenic River District will be as a 'Pecos River" Course, which is essentially an obstacle
Cr• rse. Such a course involves the installation of various ropes and poles. Under the Wild & Scenic
1; 'r Rules such a use is allowed as a Conditional Use (Open Space Recreational Use). I am
concerned about the visibility of such a course from the river and from neighboring properties. I suggest
that any approval be conditioned upon measures to reduce the visibility of the course, such as the use
of natural screening. Also, I would recommend that conditions be placed restricting the cutting or
removal of natural vegetation from this area. No removal of trees located within 100 feet of the river
should be allowed. All structures, poles and ropes should be of earth -tone coloration. The City might
consider placing restrictions on the hours the course is used, if noise is a concern of neighbors.
Mr. Kirmis noted that the City is planning to redraft it's Zoning Ordinance this fall. Please submit any
draft copies of such an Ordinance to my office for review for consistency with State Shoreland, Flood
Plain and Wild & Scenic River Standards.
Thank you for your consideration of my comments. Please keep me appraised of what action the City
takes on this matter. Please contact me if you have any questions.
Sincerely;
E)z5;z- e�1,��
Dale E. Homuth
Area Hydrologist
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MEMORANDUM
TO: Otsego Mayor and City Council
Otsego Planning Commission
FROM: Robert Kirmis
DATE: 31 July 1991
RE: Otsego - Riverwood Conference Center
FILE NO: 176.02 - 91.05
As was indicated at the 17 July meeting of the Otsego Planning
Commission, our office has attempted to clarify the issue of
existing and proposed guest rooms within the Riverwood Conference
Center. The following is a listing of existing and proposed
guest rooms within the facility.
Approved
Existing Guest Rooms Constructed by County
Original CUP (approved prior
to 1986)
Previous Bluffhouse expansion
(approved April of 1986)
TOTAL
32 * 32
(27 utilized)
34 ** 28
(32 utilized)
66 60
(59 utilized)
* Five rooms converted to office and storage space.
** Four rooms are unbuilt, while two rooms have been added to
Bluffhouse's lower level.
Proposed Guest Rooms (Current Bluffhouse Expansion Proposal)
Upper Level Pavilion 9
Handicap Ramp Conversion 6
Meeting Room Renovation 3
TOTAL 18
Total Number of Guest Rooms
Existing Rooms (utilized) 59
Proposed Rooms 18
TOTAL 77
5775 Wayzata Blvd. • Suite 555 • St. Louis Park, MN 55416 • (612) 595-9636•Fax. 595-9837
As shown above, the previous Bluffhouse expansion plan, as
approved by Wright County in April of 1986, included 2.8 guest
rooms. This figure lies in conflict with the 32 rooms which
currently exist within the facility. Due to the conversion of
several guest rooms to office and/or storage, however, the
Riverwood Center's total 59 "utilized" guest rooms is in line
within the.total of 60 approved by the County.
The current Bluffhouse expansion proposal, as referenced above,
would essentially add 17 guest rooms to the total of 60
previously approved by the County. In total then, 77 guest rooms
would exist within the Riverwood Center, pending City approval.
cc: Elaine Beatty
William Radzwill
Jerome Perrault
Larry Koshak
Michelle Lavrenz
Augw,41 3, /,?9-/
To; Owego /)6yoa and CLiq Council
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