10-17-22 Planning Commission MinutesOTSEGO PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
OTSEGO PRAIRIE CENTER
OCTOBER 17, 2022
7:00 PM
Call to Order.
Chair Offerman called the meeting to order at 7:00 PM.
Roll Call: Chair Alan Offerman; Commissioners: Charles Foster, Laurie Jones, Aaron
Stritesky, Richard Nichols*, and Vern Heidner*; Absent: Jim Kolles, Pam Black; City
Council: CM Tom Darkenwald, Mayor Jessica Stockamp, CM Brittany Moores*, CM Jeff
Dahl*. City Staff: City Planner Daniel Licht and Deputy Clerk Bethany Benting. Those
indicated with a (*) attended via video conference.
1. Announcements:
City Planner Licht noted those members of the City Council and Planning Commission
who were online.
The special meeting is rescheduled for November 7 due to Commissioners missing.
2. Consider the following minutes:
2.1 Planning Commission September 6, 2022.
2.2 Special Planning Commission September 6, 2022.
Commissioner Foster motioned to approve the minutes as written. Seconded
by Commissioner ]ones. All in favor. Motion carried. 4-0.
Commissioner Foster motioned to approve special meeting minutes as
written. Seconded by Commissioner ]ones. All in favor. Motion carried. 4-0.
3. Public Hearin-- Imo:
There were no public hearing items.
4. Planning Items:
4.1 ALDI Site and Building Plan Review
City Planner Licht presented the Planning Report.
Ryan Anderson, ISG, was online to represent the applicant and agreed with the staff
report.
Chair Offerman allowed public comments at 7:10 pm.
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Corey Tanner, 7952 Palmgren Avenue, asked about how many jobs this building will
create. Mr. Anderson said 15-20 full and part time jobs.
Mark Nystrom, 9565 Park Ave, asked if businesses will bring in tax revenue. City
Planner Licht explained yes, the businesses developed in the City pay property taxes.
Chair Offerman closed public comments 7:13 pm.
Commissioner Foster asked if this store would be similar to Maple Grove, Minnetonka
and Monticello. Mr. Anderson said those were older stores and this building is a newer
model that'is larger.
Commissioner Jones asked what the hours of operation would be and how the loading
operation works. Mr. Anderson said store hours are from 9am to 8pm. Mr. Anderson
said one truck delivers daily from a distribution center, with an exception of specific
vendors. Mr. Anderson said trucks or trailers are not parked at the stores. Mr.
Anderson said deliveries are typically unload before the stores open. Commissioner
Jones said she was concerned about truck maneuvering when cars are in the parking
lot but that the operation plan addresses that issue.
Commissioner Stritesky motioned to approve site and building plans upon Lot
1, Block 28, Parrish Meadows for ALDI Inc., subject to the following
conditions as stated in the staff report. Seconded by Commissioner Foster.
All in favor. Motion carried. 4-0.
This will go to the City Council meeting next Monday November 14, 2022 at 7 PM.
4.2 Norhart PUD Concept Plan
City Planner Licht presented the Planning Report.
Marybeth Wise and Mike Salt of Norhart were present as the applicant and updated the
Commissioners with a presentation.
Chair Offerman allowed public comments at 7:49 pm.
Dan Sly, 9501 Parrish Avenue, asked how the number of dwelling units would change if
this is approved with the density allowed by the Comprehensive Plan and asked if the
new alternative includes the undeveloped land.
James Mulcare, 9560 Parkington Avenue, questioned the building location in Alternative
noting the noise level from traffic on TH101.
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Mark Nystrom, 9565 Park Avenue, is concerned about the amount of traffic that already
goes through this area and the increased traffic that will come with building an
apartment.
Ryan Dunlap, 7787 Marlow Avenue, asked commissioners to listen to the citizens.
Michael Yoakam, 15703 93rd Circle, concerns about traffic and not for the idea of
forcing a building which stated would make traffic worse. He also mentioned if the
commissioners make exceptions for this builder would be a disservice to the former
builders that followed the comprehensive plan.
Mr. Sly asked commissioners to not allow a PUD.
Jake Denman, 14760 92nd Circle, concerned with the idea of building when "we know
it's going to fail". He is not in favor in making a bad problem worse. He wants to know
the update on the parking usage stating that parking on the street does not sound like
an ideal situation.
Corey Tanner, 7952 Palmgren Avenue, said the City doesn't have a housing supply
issue and would like to see a plan for future transportation improvements before
building more.
Tom Brooke, 10520 97th Street, asked where snow would be stored so as to not
decrease the amount of parking spaces.
Dan Fietek 15117 87th Street, asked what is the City's motivation for approving
development.
Larry Fries, 8467 Parell Avenue, commented about existing traffic congestion on Parrish
with people turning around in private driveways or making U-turns that would be made
worse with the proposed development.
James Mulcare, 9560 Parkington Avenue, suggested the City buy the land for a park.
Julie Frys, 8467 Parell Avenue, asked Commissioners if they have considered law
enforcement, fire stations and schools.
Max Farrard, 15364 96th Street, asked if the City has regulations for subsidized housing
or criminal activity by apartment residents.
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Chance Nelson, 9193 Parrish Avenue is concerned for the safety of pedestrians and
timeframe for the construction of a trail along Parrish Avenue.
Chair Offerman closed public comments at 8:07 pm.
City Planner Licht addressed the concerns about traffic related to the traffic study and
noted that streets within the development would have sidewalks on both sides.
Chair Offerman clarified that the traffic study is for the current growth no matter what
is built on this lot. He commented about the multiple traffic points and making it safer
for all.
Commissioner Stritesky asked about the trips/day volumes after TH101 road
construction is over. City Planner Licht explained that traffic is likely to decrease to
2016 to 2021 volumes. City Planner Licht said that traffic generated by the proposed
development would be dispersed to both Parrish Avenue and Quaday Avenue,
Commissioner Offerman commented that the County has a 5 -year Capital Improvement
plan to schedule future improvements.
City Planner Licht explained the purpose for the 2018 Multiple Family Housing Study to
guide development that is appropriate for Otsego.
City Planner Licht commented about the density of the project being greater than
recommended by the Multiple Family Housing Study. Chair Offerman said he would like
to see the density comply with the Multiple Family Housing Study and other apartment
developments. Commissioner Stritesky agreed.
City Planner Licht said a snow removal plan would be reviewed if this moved to a PUD
Development Stage Plan application.
City Planner Licht said that with the concept plan, the developer is looking for a high-
level response as to where Commissioners are willing to consider flexibility.
City Planner Licht commented that Otsego has three school districts with ISD 728 being
the largest and that the City coordinates closely with the district about the growth
occurring in the City, which is one of four growing cities in the School District.
City Planner Licht explained the City's contract for police services with the Wright
County Sheriff Office.
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City Planner Licht said this property is withing the Elk River Fire district and the Elk
River Fire Department has said they can protect this type of building. City Planner Licht
added that the City Council is completing a study to deploy an Otsego fire station.
City Planner Licht said that the City has adopted an ordinance regarding rental housing
that includes apartment requiring maintenance of these properties and regular
inspections.
City Planner explained that development occurs as a result of the private market where
developers and land owners make agreements and the City is responding to that
activity through its Comprehensive Plan and development regulations.
Chair Offerman commented that the City has a Parks System Master Plan that does not
direct the City to acquire the property for a park. City Planner Licht said that the City
can require dedication of a portion of the property for park purposes and would use this
authority to acquire the portion of the property along the Mississippi River.
Commissioner Stritesky asked about the parking and if the amenities are open to the
public. The reply was it is just for the residents who live there, not for the public.
Chair Offerman said he does not support the increase in density proposed but is willing
to consider flexibility on issues like building height, parking, or minimum floor areas.
Commissioner Stritesky said he prefers the location of the building in Alternative 2, but
would like to see apartments built in another part of the city if possible. Commissioner
Stritesky said he favors adhering to the standards the City has adopted.
Commissioner Foster stated he does not support the proposed development unless
established City standards are met.
Commissioner Foster commented that amenities available within the building may
change over time.
Commissioner Jones said she want the project to comply with the density allowances
established by the City. Commissioner Jones also said there should be one garage stall
for each unit.
Commissioner Jones asked if they comply with what the Commissioners are asking
would they still need a PUD. City Planner said that a PUD District may still be a
preferred approach to address other development issues, including allowed commercial
uses.
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Commissioner Heider asked if 30 percent efficiency units is a maximum or a minimum.
City Planner Licht said a maximum number of units allowed.
City Planner Licht said any action by the Planning Commission is not an approval. The
developer can decide to move forward with an application or not proceed with the
development.
Councilmember Darkenwald restated that this is a concept plan and the developer is
looking for guidance. CM Darkenwald said that if the developer moves forward,
additional applications would need to be submitted and public hearing would be
required. CM Darkenwald said that City Council has the ability to approve or deny that
request.
Commissioner Stritesky motioned to recommend support for Alternative 2 of
the PUD Concept Plan for Norhart (Richard Lefebvre property) subject to the
conditions stated in the Planning Report, amended as follows:
3. The density of development for the multiple family land use shall
not exceed one dwelling unit per 2,000 square feet -unless
appFeved by the City Geunell as a PUD Develepffient Stage Plan.
Seconded by Commissioner Jones. All in favor. Motion carried. 4-0.
5. Updates:
5.1 Updates on City Council actions.
CM Darkenwald updated the Planning Commission on recent City Council actions.
5.2 Updates on future Planning Commission items.
City Planner Licht updated the commissioners on possible future agenda items.
6. Adjourn.
Commissioner Stritesky motioned to adjourn. Seconded by Commissioner
Jones. All in favor. Motion carried. 4-0.
Adjourned at 9:04 PM.
Respectfully Submitted,
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Bethany ing, bepW Clerk