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OTSEGO PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
OTSEGO PRAIRIE CENTER
JUNE 5, 2023
7:00 PM
Call to Order:
Chair Offerman called the meeting to order at 7:00 PM.
Roll Call: Chair Alan Offerman; Commissioners, Charles Foster, Laurie Jones, Pam Black and
Tracy Kincanon; Present City Council: Mayor Jessica Stockamp and Council Member Ryan
Dunlap; Staff: City Planner Daniel Licht and City Clerk Audra Etzel. Absent: Commissioners Vern
Heidner and Vice Chair Aaron Stritesky.
1.Announcements:
City Planner Licht noted the PUD Concept Plan application for Stephs Garage was withdrawn by
the applicant. Additionally, Commissioner Foster has been appointed as a full member.
2.Consider the Following Minutes
2.1 May 15, 2023 Planning Commission Meeting.
Commissioner Foster said the minutes must be updated to reflect Chair Offerman was absent
and the meeting presided by Vice Chair Stritesky.
Chair Offerman said he did not attend the May 15, 2023 meeting and would therefore abstain.
Commissioner Black motioned to approve the minutes as amended, seconded by
Commissioner Jones. Voting in favor: Foster, Jones, Black and Kincanon. Abstained:
Offerman. Motion carried 4-0.
3.Public Hearing Item:
3.1 Java Companies – Parkview Retail 3rd Addition:
A.Conditional use permit for convenience food restaurant.
B.Site and Building Plan Review.
C. Vacation of existing drainage and utility easement.
City Planner Licht presented the planning report.
Applicant Mark Krogh, Java Companies, was present and agreed to the staff report.
Chair Offerman opened the Public Hearing at 7:11 PM.
There were no comments from the public.
Chair Offerman closed the Public Hearing at 7:11 PM.
2.1
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Commissioner Foster asked about landscaping requirements if the landscaping does not
survive. City Planner Licht said a security is required for a one-year period after planting and
the property owner is required to replant any plants that are not healthy.
Commissioner Offerman asked Mr. Krogh to identify the users. Mr. Krogh said there are two
Letters of Intent for building tenants.
Chair Offerman asked the Mr. Krogh to discuss the building orientation. Mr. Krogh said the site
plan is laid out to put the width of building close to the Parrish Avenue (CSAH 42) to give each
tenants the same visibility from Parrish.
Commissioner Jones commented that the orientation of the proposed building should be facing
east or south to match the other buildings in the area and so the activity is not facing the
residential area. Commissioner Jones also asked about the location of the trash container
storage. Mr. Krogh said they work with the waste hauler and the tenants to schedule pick-up
during off hours.
Commissioner Offerman asked about the access to the building. City Planner Licht said the
building will be accessed off of Parkview Avenue NE.
Commissioner Jones asked about the location of the east wall for Aldi in relation to the setback
of the proposed building from Parrish Avenue (CSAH 42). City Planner Licht estimated the east
wall for Aldi is setback 60 feet and the proposed building would be setback 40 feet. Mr. Krogh
said their design meets all the setback requirements.
Commissioner Kincanon asked if the doors facing Parrish Avenue (CSAH 42) will be used for the
public. Mr. Krogh said the doors facing Parrish Avenue (CSAH 42) are not for public use. City
Planner Licht noted flipping the building 180 degrees would not work for the drive through
window because of access and circulation, but the building could be rotated 90 degrees and the
drive through would be functional. Mr. Krogh said for this lot to work for the proposed uses,
they need to have the site plan and building orientation as they have designed.
Commissioner Black commented that the drive through is what is going to be seen when driving
on Parrish Avenue (CSAH 42). Mr. Krogh said the elevation facing Parrish Avenue (CSAH 42) is
not going to look the back of a building. Mr. Krogh said they have built similar buildings in
other cities and it has worked well. Mr. Krogh said the proposed site plan and building
orientation is how they are able to get the through to work on this property.
Commissioner Black motioned to recommend approval of Conditional Use Permit, site and
building plans, and vacation of drainage and utility easements for Lot 1, Block 1, Parkview
Retail 3rd Addition, subject to the conditions as stated in the planning report, seconded by
Commissioner Kincanon. Voting in favor: Offerman, Black, and Kincanon. Voting against:
Jones and Foster. Motion carried 3-2.
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Commissioner Jones stated she voted no based on the building orientation not being consistent
with adjacent development.
Commission Foster stated he voted no due to site plan and building orientation not being
uniform with surrounding development.
3.2 Christian Brothers Automotive Corporation:
A. PUD Development Stage Plan for a minor auto repair use.
City Planner Licht presented the planning report.
Paula Tolliver and Billy Green, Jr., Christian Brothers Automotive were present. Ms. Tolliver
said Christian Brothers Automotive have been in business for 40 years with 277 stores, four are
located in Minnesota. Ms. Toliver said the proposed use is servicing and minor repair, not
major repairs and the hours of operation are 7am-6pm Monday through Friday and for the first
six months after opening on Saturday.
Mr. Green asked the Planning Commission to reconsider the condition recommended by City
staff to prohibit overnight outdoor parking as there are times when a customer will need to
drop off their vehicle outside their business hours
Chair Offerman opened the Public Hearing at 7:52 PM.
There were no comments from the public.
Chair Offerman closed the Public Hearing at 7:52 PM
City Planner Licht said the Planning Commission consider may consider allowing overnight
outdoor parking in the stalls to the north or east of the building where landscaping will provide
screening.
Chair Offerman asked about limits on overnight parking in the area. City Planner Licht said
there are not overnight parking restrictions within the area except for minor auto repair uses.
Commissioner Jones if the service bays would be air conditioned. Ms. Tolliver said there is no
air conditioning. Mr. Green said due to the service bay doors opening and closing, the service
area would not be able to be kept cool. Mr. Green said only one of their 277 stores has air
conditioning in the service bays. Mr. Green said that Christian Brothers may apply for a
variance to allow the service bay doors to remain open.
Commissioner Foster asked about ventilation for the service bays. Mr. Green there is a
circulation system, but no air conditioning.
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Commissioner Jones asked if they would comply with to the requirement for the doors being
closed except when moving vehicles in and out of the service bays? Mr. Green said they will
comply with requirement from the approved conditions.
Chair Offerman wanted to know if there was an issue with having the doors open as long as
they are following the noise ordinance? City Planner Licht said that the requirement for the
doors being closed are intended to keep the noise inside the building and mitigate a potential
issue with noise. Mr. Green said the compression room has noise proofing.
Commissioner Jones said she has concerns with the aesthetics of the doors being open, in
addition to noise mitigation.
City Planner Licht that Tire Plus is subject to a requirement that the service bay doors remain
closed. The applicants for the Steph’s Garage PUD Concept Plan also said they would comply
with such a requirement.
Commissioner Foster asked about the type of services provided and average cost. Mr. Green
said the average services is about $600, including diagnosis.
Commissioner Foster asked if Target approved of the project. City Planner Licht the letter from
Target approving the proposed development under the private covenants is included in the
packet.
Commissioner Foster asked for confirmation that the owner/operator is on site. Mr. Green said
this is a franchise and the owner/operator will be on site and adhere to the corporate policies.
Commissioner Black motioned to recommend approval of a PUD Development Stage Plan for
Christian Brothers Automotive, subject to the conditions as stated in the planning report,
seconded by Commissioner Foster. All in favor. Motion carried 5-0.
3.3 Firearms No Discharge Map:
A. Amendment to the Firearms No Discharge Map.
City Planner Licht gave the planning report.
Chair Offerman opened the Public Hearing at 8:21 PM
Tim Neutgens, 13271 85th Street NE, said their home was hit twice in 2022 by firearms
discharge from the property to the east. Mr. Neutgens requested the area between 85th Street
and 83rd Street be included in the No Discharge Zone. Commissioner Kincanon asked if there
was damage to the building? Mr. Neutgens said there was no damage to the house.
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Dennis McAlpine, 13355 85th Street NE, has lived in his home for 55 years and has been putting
up with hunters since living here. Mr. McAlpine said his home is 150 feet from the edge of the
pond and he would like protection for the homeowners that live in the area. Mr. McAlpine
requested that the area between 85th Street and 83rd Street be included in the No Discharge
Zone.
Lynelle Neutgens, 13271 85th Street NE, said she, Mr. Neutgens, and Mr. McAlpine have
addressed the City Council at previous meetings regarding their property. Ms. Neutgens said
the incidents that occurred were very alarming and she is not looking forward to the fall
hunting season as she does not feel safe on her property.
Shannon Ambrose, 8451 Nashua Ave NE, said (via on-line meeting) they bought their property
in a rural area with the intention to hunt and farm. Ms. Ambrose said they are currently not
hunting on the pond because they were unable to come to an agreement with the Neutgens.
Ms. Ambrose added she feels it is premature to include their property in the No Discharge Zone
as the area is still rural.
Chair Offerman closed the Public Hearing at 8:36 PM
Chair Offerman is a hunter noted the discharge rules are different when on a navigable public
water. Chair Offerman explained hunter’s rights in regards to harassment, and discussed some
options to legally discharge a firearms that apply regardless of the City’s regulations.
City Planner Licht said staff is not dismissing the residents’ concerns and the offender has been
talked to by the Wright County Sheriff’s Office; if further incidents occur the Wright County
Deputies have the ability to issue citations and have the violation prosecuted by the County
Attorney.
Chair Offerman said he is concerned about changing the No Discharge Zone in response to one
situation when other regulations can be used to address the issue.
Commissioner Foster asked when the hunting seasons start? Chair Offerman said the hunting
seasons are generally from September to the end of December.
City Planner Licht noted the smaller of two Wildlife Management Areas within the City has had
similar issues with shortfall, but the surrounding is still outside the No Discharge Zone.
Commissioner Kincanon motioned to recommend City Council approval of an update of the
Firearms No Discharge Map to be published by 1 September, 2023, as presented, seconded by
Commissioner Jones. Voting in favor: Jones, Offerman, Kincanon, and Black. Abstained:
Foster. Motion carried 4-0.
Commissioner Foster is abstaining due to being undecided.
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3.4 Zoning Ordinance Amendments:
A. Definitions.
B. Building type and construction.
C. Off-street parking surfacing.
City Planner Licht gave the planning report.
Chair Offerman opened the Public Hearing at 8:56 PM
No comments from the public.
Chair Offerman closed the Public Hearing at 8:56 PM
City Planner Licht noted for the record there was a letter from Christian Builders dated June 5,
2023 regarding the driveway ordinance amendment.
Chair Offerman asked how the driveway completion is verified? City Planner Licht said
installation of the required driveway is verified by the Department of Building Safety at the time
a Certificate of Occupancy is issued. City Planner Licht said if the driveway and/or landscaping
is not complete, sometimes due to season, an escrow is collected and held until the driveway or
landscaping is in place.
Commissioner Black how the driveway ordinance is applied. City Planner Licht said the Zoning
Ordinance was updated within the last several years to require that any new homes built off of
a paved street is required to have a paved driveway.
Chair Offerman asked about properties that are required to provide a paved driveway but have
not? City Planner Licht said the City will be following up on these properties as an enforcement
action. City Planner Licht noted that the proposed ordinance amendment reduces the
requirement for these properties from having to pave the full length of the driveway to only 35
or 65 feet, depending on the classification of the street accessed, to encourage compliance.
Commissioner Jones motioned to recommend approval of an ordinance amending the Zoning
Ordinance as presented, seconded by Commissioner Black. All in Favor. Motion carried 5-0.
4. Updates:
4.1 Updates on City Council actions
Mayor Stockamp updated the Planning Commission on recent City Council actions.
4.2 Updates on future Planning Commission Items
City Planner Licht updated the Planning Commission on future Planning Commission Items.
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5. Adjourn.
Commissioner Foster motioned to adjourn at 9:04 PM, seconded by Commissioner Kincanon.
All in favor. Motion carried. 5-0.
Respectfully submitted by Audra Etzel, City Clerk.