03-08-99 CCCITY OF OTSEGO COUNCIL MEETING
MARCH 8, 1999 - 6:30PM
MINUTES
1 Mayor Larry Fournier will call meeting to order:
Mayor Fournier called the meeting to order at 6:35PM.
a. Pledge of Allegiance
There was no Pledge of Allegiance
b. Roll Call
Council: Mayor Larry Fournier, Vern Heidner, Mark Berning, and Virginia Wendel.
Suzanne Ackerman was not present (She had called - 6:45PM she arrived)
Staff: Mike Robertson, City Administrator, Elaine Beatty, City Clerk/Zoning
Administrator, Andy MacArthur, City Attorney, Larry Koshak, City Engineer, and Dan
Licht, City Planner. Judy Hudson, Deputy Clerk/Treasurer, was absent
2 Consider agenda approval. (Deletions or additions)
Mike Robertson added three items to the claims list Re: Payment for right-of-way
easements.
Mayor Fournier - Moved Item 9.1 Discussion of EDAAC to immediately
following the Consent Agenda.
VERN HEIDNER MOTIONED TO ADOPT THE AGENDA AS AMENDED.
VIRGINIA WENDEL SECONDED THE MOTION. MOTION CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY.
3. Consider Minutes:
a. Regular Council Meeting of February 22, 1999
MARK BERNING MOTIONED TO ADOPT THE MINUTES AS WRITTEN FOR
THE REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING OF FEBRUARY 22,1999. VIRGINIA
WENDEL SECONDED THE MOTION. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
b. Workshop DevelopQrs Agreement Meeting of February 18. 1999
MARK BERNING MOTIONED TO ADOPT THE MINUTES AS WRITTEN FOR
THE WORKSHOP DEVELOPERS AGREEMENT MEETING OF FEBRUARY
18, 1999. VERN HEIDNER SECONDED THE MOTION. MOTION CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY.
4 Open Forum: (5 minute limit).
4.1. SPECIAL PRESENTATION
None
4.2. Any Open Forum
Jerry Olejar - 7170 Ogren Avenue NE:
He has lived in Lin Bar Estates for 1 -year and has not yet installed his driveway. He
would like a 34 - 36' wide driveway, City Code allows a maximum of 24'. He has a 3 -car
garage and wants a concrete pavement driveway and is willing to pay, the price.
Discussion on reasons for 24' curb cut and that is what ordinance allows. After much
discussion the Council consensus was to not change the Ordinance.
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Keith Knutson - 6630 Odean Avenue NE:
Wanted to discuss with Dan Licht the height of his proposed accessory building. Mr.
Licht explained the initial planning report and one of the initial conditions was that the
height of the principal building could not be exceeded. Mr. Knutson's house is 12-1/2 ft
tall and the proposed accessory building is 18-1/2 feet tall, which is 6' taller than the
home. He can lower the accessory building by 6' or apply for a CUP for height. Mr.
Knutson stated he thought the height of the proposed building had been approved. Mr.
Knutson was asked to talk with Dan Licht.
5 CONSENT AGENDA (Non -Controversial Items)
5 1 Approve Pay Estimate #2 Re: Water Tank and Tower (Attached)
MOTION BY VERN HEIDNER TO ADOPT THE CONSENT AGENDA AND
APPROVE PAY ESTIMATE #2 RE: WATER TANK AND TOWER IN THE
AMOUNT OF $233,100.00. MAYOR FOURNIER SECONDED THE MOTION.
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
9.1. Discussion of EDAAC.
Discussion of the letter dated February 17, 1999 from EDAAC. Mayor Fournier
had a prepared response and suggested 10 possible projects the EDAAC could work on.
He felt that this is the time to promote the City of Otsego, with sewer and water being
implemented and to put the EDAAC to work for Economic Development.
Virginia Wendel - agreed with the majority of suggestions and agrees with the
meeting with the EDA and EDAAC separate from the Council Meeting.
Suzanne Ackerman - agreed with Virginia Wendel and likes most of what Mayor
Fournier said. She felt we need to meet with EDAAC more often.
Vern Heidner - Didn't feel every other month meeting is needed. Maybe once a
quarter or so.
Mark Berning - Would like to hear from LeRoy Lindenfelser how EDAAC can
handle the Mayors suggestions.
LeRoy Lindenfelser - We have hashed this out several times. As the letter states,
my concern is if we want to continue to pursue this, a direction needs to be set. A plan
and action is needed. We need direction.
Mark Berning - Felt the Mayor's suggestions would be done by a staff person and
the EDAAC would give recommendations. LeRoy Lindenfelser agreed with that.
Vern Heidner - What is Dan Wilson's background? Dan Licht said he does a full
range of Economic Development Consulting.
Mike Robertson - Felt the Staff would do a lot of the items. He wonders if Dan
Wilson is the best for this. He cautioned that Dan Wilson is used to a large budget.
Mayor Fournier - When I suggested Dan Wilson, maybe Mike Robertson is the
one for this.
Virginia Wendel - Reminded the Council that she will also be at these EDAAC meetings
as Council liaison. She asked if the EDAAC has seen Larry Fournier's suggestions?
Answer: No.
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Ms. Wendel wanted the EDAAC to see the Mayors letter. LeRoy Lindenfelser -
EDAAC looking at the letter is OK, but we need direction.
Mark Berning - Mike Robertson can write a plan that we can relay to the
EDAAC. LeRoy Lindenfelser voiced some concern with the EDAAC members and
terms expired. The Council had re -appointed all members for 90 days through the end of
April.
Mike Robertson suggested to not meet in March and meet at the next EDAAC
meeting April 21, 1999 at 7PM. It was noted that Rudy Thibodeau, LeRoy Lindenfelser
and Liz Wilder will have expired terms at the end of April.
6 Dan Licht, Assistant City Planner:
6.1. Discussion of Memo of 2/24/99 Re: Zoning Ordinance Update
We need to combine the new Ordinance into the existing Zoning Ordinance and
restructure it. It is a good time to re -codify the Zoning Ordinance and Sub -Division
Ordinance. Cost estimate is $750.00 (no more).
Vern Heidner asked if we can get Zoning Ordinance information on diskette to
post on the Internet. Answer - Yes.
VERN HEIDNER MOTIONED AND MARK BERNING SECONDED THE
MOTION TO DIRECT THE CITY PLANNER TO RE -CODIFY THE
ORDINANCE FOR $750.00 MAX, OR LESS. MOTION CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY.
7:45 Suzanne Ackerman left the Council Meeting.
6.2. Consider the Proposed Zoning Ordinance Amendment Re: Feedlots
Dan Licht explained the Zoning Ordinance proposed Feedlot Amendment in
detail. Virginia Wendel questioned why farmers can't leave the farm to work for awhile
and still be able to re-establish the feedlot. Dan Licht explained that if the feedlot is
closed for one year it cannot be re-established.
Mark Berning questioned Pg. #5, No. 8. In six months when they register their
feedlot and they need an MPCA permit - What if they do not have it yet. Dan Licht noted
that they discussed this at the P.C. and a copy of the application will be sufficient
Mayor Fournier questioned Mark Berning as to what he hears from the farming
community RE: this Feedlot Ordinance Amendment? Mark answered not much. He felt
that more hobby farmers would be registering feedlots because of the 1,000' setback.
More discussion on same.
MARK BERNING MOTIONED TO APPROVE THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT
TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE RE: FEEDLOTS - SECTIONS 2,26 AND 38.
MAYOR FOURNIER SECONDED THE MOTION.
Vern Heidner voiced concern with the possibility of hobby farms blocking out
other development. Mark Berning noted that one way for the Staff to check up on this is
call MPCA to see if the application was sent in for a feedlot. The new dwelling
information is based on the existing definition of a feedlot, rather than of a farm said
Andy MacArthur. More discussion - Mr. MacArthur was directed to investigate this
further.
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MARK BERNING WITHDREW HIS MOTION. LARRY FOURNIER
WITHDREW HIS SECOND.
This item will be on the 3/22/99 Council Agenda.
6.3. Discussion of P.C. consideration of pole buildings in Urban Service
Area
Dan Licht explained that the P.C. reconsidered the pole building issue for other areas of
the City at their last P.C. meeting at Council's request. The P. C. recommendation to the
City Council is to maintain the Ordinance as adopted for Accessory Buildings.
Vern Heidner - Felt that no pole buildings were built East of Nashua because
people were not allowed to build them. He felt to be fair we should let pole buildings be
built on lots five or more acres in the rest of the City. Virginia Wendel agreed with Vern.
Heidner.
VERN HEIDNER MOTIONED THAT ON ALL PARCELS FIVE ACRES OR
GREATER WITHIN THE CITY OF OTSEGO BE ALLOWED TO HAVE POLE
BUILDINGS. VIRGINIA WENDEL SECONDED THE MOTION. MOTION
WITHDRAWN.
MAYOR FOURNIER MOTIONED TO ACCEPT THE P.C.
RECOMMENDATION TO MAINTAIN THE ORDINANCE AS ADOPTED FOR
POLE BUILDINGS. MARK BERNING SECONDED THE MOTION. MOTION
CARRIED 3 TO 1 WITH VERN HEIDNER VOTING NO.
6.4. See 8.1 below
Discussion of timing of lifting of moratorium was discussed. Only the lot size in the
Rural area is left to be determined. The P.C. will discuss at 3/16/99 meeting. This does
not affect the E. area of the City. We can remove the Moratorium in the East area only.
Vern Heidner asked if we adopt the Engineering Guideline, how do we amend it?
Answer: It is a simple policy change by the Council. Mike Robertson said the Council
should review the Developers Agreement. He also agreed that the Council can amend
these easily.
Andy MacArthur - City could have two alternative resolutions, one for the sewer
area and one for the whole City. If the issues are resolved the moratorium can be
removed from the entire City. Staff was directed to place this item on the 3/22/99
Agenda.
6.5 Any Other Planning Business
None
7 Larry Koshalc6City Engineer:
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7.1. Receive Feasibility Study for 78th Street and Page Avenue
Larry Koshak explained the Feasibility Study for 78th and Page Ave. Larry Koshak
recommends a street connection change based on the projected number of lots. Street
improvement is based on MSA design street 44' wide, 10' bike trail walkway, curb and
gutter, 4-1/2" asphalt, 7" class 5 gravel - a 10 ton street with the right of way obtained
through platting. The number of lots and average trip generation of 10 trips per day per
lot creates a peak ultimate traffic flow of 4500 per day and warrants designation as a
collector street.. There are an estimated 884 lots in the entire area served by these streets
which makes the street connection fee $566.47 per lot.
Virginia Wendel - Why is this an MSA road? Couldn't we build a cheaper road?
Mike Robertson said it is an MSA road because those roads are designated as MSA roads
in our transportation plan. Ms. Wendel asked where are we getting the money? Answer:
Fee comes from developer in up -front money. Andy explained that the feasibility study
establishes the fees so we can establish the developer's fees. The resolutions are standard
#429 resolutions. We can either assess it or charge it as fees. The other half of the street
costs would be paid through State MSA funds.
Larry Koshak showed Exhibit G on future roads. Before this project is feasible,
1000 ft. on E side of Quaday needs to be acquired form Darkenwalds. Ms. Wendel
questioned if we are installing a bike path on every road? Mike Robertson noted that the
City's trail plan calls for trails only along MSA roads.
a Consider a Resolution Ordering the Feasibility
VERN HEIDNER MOTIONED TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION #99-9
ORDERING THE PREPARATION OF A FEASIBILITY REPORT FOR PAGE
AND 78TH, AND QUADAY AVENUE. MAYOR FOURNIER SECONDED THE
MOTION. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Mark Berning questioned why 78TH ST is not located 1/4 mile North. Mr. Koshak
explained it will be serving property to both the S & N and to the service road parallel to
State Highway #101.
bConsider a Resolution Accepting the Feasibility Report and Adopting
the Findings
Andy MacArthur explained the resolution.
LARRY FOURNIER MOTIONED TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION #99-10
RECEIVING THE REPORT AND ADOPTING THE FINDINGS OF FACT FOR
PAGE AVENUE, QUADAY AVENUE AND 78TH STREET. VIRGINIA
WENDEL SECONDED THE MOTION. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY
7.2. Received the revised 78th St Trunk Sanitary Sewer and Water
Report.
Consider a Resolution to Adopt the Report
Mr. Koshak explained the revised trunk sewer and water report from the 1997
study. $730,000 is the estimated total cost.
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VERN HEIDNER MOTIONED TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION #99-11
ORDERING PREPARATION OF THE REPORT ON IMPROVEMENT FOR
78TH STREET TRUNK AND SANITARY SEWER AND WATER. VIRGINIA
WENDEL SECONDED THE MOTION. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
VERN HEIDNER MOTIONED TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION #99-12
RECEIVING REPORT AND FINDINGS FOR 78TH STREET TRUNK
SANITARY SEWER AND WATER AND LARRY FOURNIER SECONDED THE
MOTION. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
7.3. Receive Feasibility Report for the Trunk Storm Water Facilities in
Sub -districts 2,5,6,7 and 8 of the LeFebvre Watershed District
Larry Koshak explained the trunk storm water plan in LeFebvre Watershed.
Summary of cost estimate is $1,072,200 or $1,266 per acre. Mr. Koshak discussed that
the Country Ridge developer paid a stormwater fee on 85TH ST. and we have that money
in an account for stormwater improvements in the LeFebvre Watershed District.
Mr. Robertson asked if Ulmer and Backus develop, how soon does the work on
County Road #42 need to be done? Mr. Koshak - 2001 would be OK. The present
structure is adequate until the area served is 50% developed. Discussion of ditch deeper
on one side to take advantage of the culvert and maintain rate of flow at a certain level.
Mr. Koshak said the $1,037.600 divided by 820 acres equals the impact fee of
$1,266 an acre or approximately $600 per lot.
MAYOR FOURNIER MOTIONED TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION #99-13
ACCEPTING TRUNK STORM WATER FACILITIES STUDY FOR PORTIONS
OF LEFEBVRE WATERSHED DATED MARCH, 1999. VERN HEIDNER
SECONDED THE MOTION. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
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7.4. Receive the Engineer Guideline Manual for the City
Larry Koshak explained that we can revise the Engineer Guideline Manual for the
City as it is not an Ordinance. Mr. Koshak asked that the Council have the planner review
this guide to see if there are any conflicts with the present ordinances. The plan is to
adopt this Engineer Guideline Manual by Resolution at the 3/22/99 Council Meeting.
Mr. Berning asked who will make the recommendation for water meters? Mike
felt a brief summary and discussion of meters should be prepared.
7.5. Any other Engineering Business
None
8 Andrew MacArthur City Attorney•
8.1. Discussion of Timing For Lifting Moratorium
8.2. Review Proposed Bonestroo Contract
Mr. MacArthur explained the letter to Bonestroo regarding suggested changes in the
contract. Mr. MacArthur had phone conversations with Bonestroo's attorney regarding
the proposed document in front of the Council tonight. Andy MacArthur discussed the
changes that were made. With these changes Andy MacArthur recommends Council
approval.
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VERN HEIDNER MOTIONED TO APPROVE THE BONESTROO CONTRACT
FOR CONSTRUCTION AND SERVICE OF THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT
PLANT. MAYOR FOURNIER SECONDED THE MOTION INCLUDING THE
MARCH 4, 1999 CORRESPONDENCE DEFINING CONSTRUCTION
OBSERVATION TO MIKE ROBERTSON. MOTION CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY.
8.3. Review Revised Developers Agreement
Andy MacArthur explained the changes that were recommended at the workshop
meeting. Larry Koshak said the fees to the developers should be based on actual
construction costs.
MARK BERNING MOTIONED ADOPTION OF THE DEVELOPERS
AGREEMENT. VERN HEIDNER SECONDED THE MOTION. MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
8.4. Any Other Legal Business
9. Council Items:
91 B Discussion of Animal Control Ordinance
Tabled to next agenda
C Discussion of Surplus General Fund
Tabled to next agenda
D Set date for Groundbreaking Ceremony for Wastewater
Treatment Plant
Tabled to next agenda
F. Any Other Council Business
None
9.2. Mike Robertson, City Administrator - update:
A Discussion of Street Department Part-time Hours
B. Any Other Administration Business
A and B tabled to next agenda
9.3. Elaine Beatty, City Clerk - update
Tabled to next agenda
9.4. Judy Hudson Deputy City Clerk - update
Tabled to next agenda
VERN HEIDNER MOTIONED TO TABLE THE REST OF THE AGENDA, BUT
THE CLAIMS LIST DUE TO BAD WEATHER AND THE LATE HOUR. MARK
BERNING SECONDED THE MOTION. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
9.5. Consider Claims List for approval,
VERN HEIDNER MOTIONED AND MAYOR FOURNIER_SECONDED THE
MOTION TO ADOPT THE CLAIMS LIST WITH THREE ADDITIONAL ITEMS
FOR EASEMENT PAYMENT AS FOLLOWS: 1)GEORGE E. BENESH $302.00
2)ROSE MILLER $2,234.00 and 3)RANDAL AND MARY LEFEBVRE $3,723.00.
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
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VERN HEIDNER MOTIONED TO ADJOURN THE MEETING. LARRY
FOURNIER SECONDED THE MOTION. MOTION CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY.
MEETING ADJOURNED AT I0:50P'1I.
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