01-13-97 CCCITY OF OTSEGO
REQUEST FOR COUNCIL ACTION
AGENDA SECTION: DEPARTMENT: MEETING DATE
6. BOB KIRMIS Elaine Beatty January 13, 1997 -
6:30PM
ITEM NUMBER: ITEM DESCRIPTION: PREPARED BY: EB,CC
6.1. Barthel Bros. Dairy, James, Paul and Joseph Barthel, Owners,
11364 - 80TH ST NE, Chris Bulow, Inc., Developer for a CUP to allow
transfer of property building rights of one per forty acres
subdivisions. Request is as follows:
1. A Conditional Use Permit to allow the following:
A. Transfer of property rights of one per forty
subdivisions to allow a 7 -lot clustered subdivision.
B. A Variance for Cul-de-sac length (longer than allowed
by regulations.)
BACKGROUND:
The above item had been continued at the request of the Applicant from
November 20, 1996 P.C. Meeting, so they could gather more
information. Also Continued from the P.C. Meeting of Dec 4, 1996, so
the P.C. could conduct a site inspection of the Co Rd #39 and 80TH ST
Farm areas. the Hearing was continued to the P.C. Meeting of Dec. 18,
1996. The Planning Commission denied the Transfer of property rights
of one per forty subdivisions to allow a 7 -lot clustered subdivision.
The reason stated was the impact on agriculture and neighbors. (See
enclosed information from the City Attorney regarding this issue)
STAFF RECOMMENDATION:
This is a Council Decision. The
request. Please read the City
attached. Planning Commission
Thank you,
,;:!;`
Elaine
Staff recommended approval of this
Attorney's letter of January 7, 1997
minutes Re: Barthel attached.
JAN - 8
William S. Radzwill
Andrew J. MacArthur
Vichael C. Couri
Megan M. McDonald
January 7, 1997
RAMWILL & CO URI
Attorneys at Law L
705 Central Avenue East
PO Box 369
St. Michael, MN 55376
(612) 497-1930
(612) 497-2599 (FAX)
City Council Members
City of Otsego
c/o Elaine Beatty, City Clerk
8899 Nashua Avenue NE
Elk River, MN 55330
RE: Barthel Brothers Dairy, Rolling Ridge Creek- Conditional Use
Permit Transfer of Development Rights
Dear Council Members:
I have reviewed the proposed alternative Findings of Fact for both
approval and denial drafted by the City Planner and the minutes of
the Planning Commission hearings and meetings where this matter was
considered. It is my understanding that the Planning Commission
unanimously voted to deny the requested CUP.
My concern with this matter is the apparent lack of adequate
factual basis on the record supporting the findings upon which the
Planning Commission has recommended denial.
The City can legitimately reject a CUP if it determines that the
proposed use is incompatible with surrounding uses for specifically
delineated reasons. It appears from the minutes that the basis for
such a finding needs to be enhanced.
Based upon my review, it appears that the proposed development
could conceivably be rejected for either compatibility or safety
reasons. However, the present record does not provide an adequate
basis for either finding, in my opinion.
I would therefore recommend that the Council consider sending the
matter back to the Planning Commission for further consideration
and public hearing, or conduct its own public hearing, if it
appears that there may be reasons for a denial. Otsego Zoning
Ordinance 20-4-2, L and M.
1
Letter to Otsego City Council
January 7, 1997
Page 2
I refer to the memo from the City Planner's office regarding this
matter dated December 23, 1996. I think that the memo makes some
good points regarding the proposal. However, the issue as to
whether to approve or deny the conditional use permit is a Council
decision. My primary concern is that whatever action the City takes
can be defended.
If the Council desires to approve the CUP, I believe that there is
an adequate record to support approval.
Obviously, if the proposed CUP was approved it would have to comply
with all re,:ommendations of the City Engineer.
If you have any questions regarding this matter I will be available
to respond to them at the regular City Council meeting scheduled
for January 13, 1997.
Very y you
drew J ac r
RADZWILL & COURI
cc: Bob Kirmis, Assistant City Planner
Larry Koshak, Hakanson Anderson
Planning Commission
Chris Bulow, Developer
NORTHWEST ASSOCIATED CONSULTANTS
NW INC COMMUNITY PLANNING - DESIGN - MARKET RESEARCH
MEMORANDUM
TO: Otsego Mayor and City Council
FROM: Bob Kirmis
DATE: 8 January 1997
RE: Otsego - Barthel
FILE NO: 176.02 - 96.24
Attached please find the following findings of fact applicable to the Barthel request:
1. Conditional Use Permit - Denial
2. Conditional Use Permit - Approval
3. Variance - Approval
Due to the relative uncertainty regarding this request, findings for both approval and denial
of the conditional use permit have been prepared.
This item is scheduled for City Council consideration on 13 January.
PC: Elaine Beatty
Larry Koshak
Andy MacArthur
5775 WAYZATA BOULEVARD, SUITE 555 ST. LOUIS PARK, MINNESOTA 554 1 8
PHONE 6 1 2-595-9638 FAX 6 1 2-595-9637
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
DENIAL
CITY OF OTSEGO
WRIGHT COUNTY, MINNESOTA
IN RE: FINDINGS OF FACT
AND DECISION
Application of Barthel Brothers Dairy for a conditional use permit to allow a "one per forty"
transfer of development rights within an A-1, Agricultural Rural Service Zoning District.
On 13. January 1997, the Otsego City Council met at its regularly scheduled meeting to
consider the application of Barthel Brothers Dairy for a conditional use permit to allow the
aforementioned.
Based on the application, the recommendation of the Planning Commission, and the
evidence received, the City Council now makes the following findings of fact and decision.
FINDINGS OF FACT
1. The applicant is requesting a conditional use permit to allow "one per forty" transfer
of development rights within an A-1, Agricultural Rural Service Zoning District
specifically.
2. The Legal description of the sources of the density transfer are as follows:
See Attached Exhibit A
3. The legal description of the property to which the development right is being
transferred is as follows:
See Attached Exhibit B
4. Section 20-4-2.F of the Zoning Ordinance directs the Planning Commission and
City Council to consider seven possible adverse effects of the proposed conditional
use permit. The seven effects and findings regarding them are:
f. Traffic generation by the proposed use in relation to capabilities of
streets serving the property.
It is anticipated that the seven proposed dwellings will generate
approximately 70 vehicle trips per day upon County Road 39 (per Institute
of Transportation Engineers). Such traffic is within the capabilities of County
Road 39 which serves the property.
g. The proposed use's impact upon existing public services and facilities
including parks, schools, streets and utilities, and its potential to
overburden the City's service capacity.
The applicable A-1 Zoning District allows a residential density of one
dwelling unit per 40 acres of land. It is the applicants' intent to cluster their
available development rights into a single location. The proposed single
family dwellings will not overburden the City's service capacity.
5. The planning report, dated 11 November 1996 prepared by Northwest Associated
Consultants, Inc., is incorporated herein.
6. On 20 November, 4 December. and 18 December 1996 the Otsego Planning
Commission conducted a public hearing to consider the proposed conditional use
permit application preceded by published and mailed notice. Upon review of the
conditional use permit application and evidence received, the Otsego Planning
Commission closed the public hearing and recommended that the City Council deny
the conditional use permit based on the aforementioned findings. The
recommendation of denial has the affect of denying the associated preliminary plat
and variance applications.
DECISION
Based on the foregoing considerations and applicable ordinance, the applicant's request
for a Conditional Use Permit to allow a "one per fort" transfer of development rights in an
A-1 Zoning District is denied in its present form.
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LEGAL DESCRIPTION
SOURCE(S) OF DENSITY TRANSFER
To be added
EXHIBIT A
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
APPROVAL
CITY OF OTSEGO
WRIGHT COUNTY, MINNESOTA
IN RE: FINDINGS OF FACT
AND DECISION
Application of Barthel Brothers Dairy for a conditional use permit to allow a "one per forty"
transfer of development rights within an A-1, Agricultural Rural Service Zoning District.
On 13 January 1997, the Otsego City Council met at its regularly scheduled meeting to
consider the application of Barthel Brothers Dairy for a conditional use permit to allow the
aforementioned.
Based on the application, the recommendation of the Planning Commission, and the
evidence received, the City Council now makes the following findings of fact and decision.
FINDINGS OF FACT
1. The applicant is requesting a conditional use permit to allow "one per forty" transfer
of development rights within an A-1, Agricultural Rural Service Zoning District
specifically.
2. The Legal description of the sources of the density transfer are as follows:
See Attached Exhibit A
3. The legal description of the property to which the development right is being
transferred is as follows:
See Attached Exhibit B
4. Section 20-4-21 of the Zoning Ordinance directs the Planning Commission and
City Council to consider seven possible adverse effects of the proposed conditional
use permit. The seven effects and findings regarding them are:
9. The proposed use's impact upon existing public services and facilities
including parks, schools, streets and utilities, and its potential to
overburden the City's service capacity.
The applicable A-1 Zoning District allows a residential density of one
dwelling unit per 40 acres of land. It is the applicants' intent to cluster their
available development rights into a single location. The proposed single
family dwellings will not overburden the City's service capacity.
5. The planning report, dated 11 November 1996 prepared by Northwest Associated
Consultants, Inc., is incorporated herein.
6. On 20 November, 4 December 1996, and 18 December the Otsego Planning
Commission conducted a public hearing to consider the proposed conditional use
permit application preceded by published and mailed notice. Upon review of the
conditional use permit application and evidence received, the Otsego Planning
Commission closed the public hearing and recommended that the City Council deny
the conditional use permit.
DECISION
Based on the foregoing considerations and applicable ordinance, the applicant's request
for a Conditional Use Permit to allow a "one per forty" transfer of development rights in an
A-1 Zoning District is approved in its present form and subject to the following stipulations:
1. The properties involved in the development rights transfer are under the same
ownership.
2. A deed restriction is placed upon the parcels from which development rights have
been transferred to prohibit additional development.
3. The City approve the Rolling Ridge Creek final plat.
ADOPTED by the Otsego City Council this 13th day of January 1997.
CITY OF OTSEGO
Larry Fournier, Mayor
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LEGAL DESCRIPTION
SOURCE(S) OF DENSITY TRANSFER
To be added
EXHIBIT A
VARIANCE APPROVAL
CUL-DE-SAC LENGTH
CITY OF OTSEGO
WRIGHT COUNTY, MINNESOTA
IN RE: FINDINGS OF FACT
AND DECISION
Application of Barthel Brothers Dairy to allow a variance from the City's maximum 500 foot
cul-de-sac length requirement. _
On 13 January 1997, the Otsego City Council met at its regularly scheduled meeting to
consider the application of Barthel Brothers Dairy to allow the aforementioned variance.
Based on the application, the recommendation of the Planning Commission, and the
evidence received, the City Council now makes the following findings of fact and decision.
FINDINGS OF FACT
1. The property to which the variance is to be applied is legally described as follows:
See Attached Exhibit A
2. The subject property is zoned A-1,Agricultural Rural Service.
3. The applicants are requesting a variance from Section 21-7-6 of the Subdivision
Ordinance which stipulates that cul-de-sac streets may not exceed 500 feet in
length.
4. The applicants are proposing a cul-de-sac measuring approximately 580 feet in
length.
5. Section 21-104A of the Subdivision Ordinance states that a variance shall only be
approved when the City Council finds that a variance may not be issued unless
certain criteria are satisfied. The criteria and findings regarding them are:
g. That the hardship is not a result of an action or actions by the owner,
applicant, or any agent thereof.
The hardship is not a result of an action by the owner, applicant or any agent
thereof.
The hardship is not a result of an action by the property owner, applicant, or
agent thereof.
6. The planning report dated 11 November 1996, prepared by Northwest Associated
Consultants, Inc., is incorporated herein.
7. In conjunction with the requested variance, the applicants have also requested
approval of a conditional use permit to allow a transfer of development rights.
Denial of the said conditional use permit request would have the result of variance
denial.
8. 'On 20 November, 4 December and 18 December 1996, the Planning Commission
conducted a public hearing to consider the proposed variance and associated
conditional use permit preceded by published and mailed notice. Upon review of
the cited conditional use permit application and evidence received, the Planning
Commission closed the public hearing and recommended that the Otsego City
Council deny the conditional use permit
base
cnary to on various
con derfindings.
the reque ted
approval of such conditional use permit snee
variance, the Planning Commission resultantly recommended that the Otsego City
Council deny the variance request.
DECISION
Based on the foregoing considerations, and the applicable City Ordinances, the applicant's
request for variance from the City's cul-dfollowing
g h requirement is approved in its
present form, subject to the fulfillment of the9
1. Final plat approval of the Rolling Ridge Creek Subdivision.
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LEGAL DESCRIPTION TO BE ADDED
EXHIBIT A
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vOJ A112j� WRIGHT COUNTY wAYNE 0E NGALSON, P.E.
DEPARTMENT OF HIGHWAYS Highway Engineer
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:lI 1901 Highway 25 North Assistant Highway Engineer
Buffalo, Minnesota 55313 682-7387
RICHARD E. MARQUETPE
7855 Jct. T.H. 25 and C.R. 138 Right of way Agent
Telephone (612)682-7383 682-7386
Facsimile (612) 682-7313
December 18, 1996
Otsego Mayor and City Council
Otsego City Planning Commission
8899 Nashua Avenue NE
Otsego, Minnesota 55330
RE: Rolling Ridge Creek Preliminary Plat
Honorable Mayor, City Council, and Planning Commission:
We have reviewed the preliminary plat for the above mentioned
development dated November 8, 1996, as prepared by Taylor Land
Surveying, Inc. The preliminary plat has not been reviewed with
respect to drainage, street improvements, and grading internal to
the plat, as the City of Otsego should review these aspects for
conformance to city standards. We offer the following comments
regarding impact to County State Aid Highway 39.
1. An access permit will be required for access to
CSAR 39. Requirements for access will be
identified in the permit special provisions, which
in this case, would include construction of a 12 -
foot wide right turn lane on CSAH 39. Specific
requirements of turnlane layout and section
strength will be identified as part of the access
permit provisions.
2. A right-of-way dedication of 55 feet from
centerline on CSAH 39 should be shown on the plat.
This will accommodate the right turn lane and also
leave room for future utilities. This is
consistent with the policy in the Wright County
Transportation Plan.
3. A preliminary review of the proposed access
location indicates that the sight distance will
meet the minimum required by the County.
4. Ditch drainage, approach grade, and sideslope
requirements for access to CSAH 39 will be
addressed as part of the special provisions of the
access permit.
Equal Opportunity / Affirmative Action Employer
CITY OF OTSEGO
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
of December 18, 1996
I. Chair Swenson will call meeting to orders
Chair Swenson call the Planning Commission Meeting to order at 8:00 PM.
ROLL CALL:
Present: Chair, Carl Swenson, Commissioners, Ing Roskaft, Arleen Nagel,
Bruce Rask, Richard Nichols, Eugene Goenner, Jim Kolles
Staff. Bob Kirmis, City Planner, Jerry Olson, Building Official, Elaine Beatty, City
Clerk/Zoning Administrator, Carol A. Olson, Secretary
Council Representative, Larry Fournier
Councilmembers; Vern Heidner, Suzanne Ackerman
Councilmembers Elect; Virginia Wendel, Mark Berning
2 Consideration of the Minutes of Dee -ember 4, 1996 P.C. Meetings
Chair Swenson - The minutes of December 4, 1996 will be ready for review and approval
at the January 2, 1997 Planning Commission Meeting.
3. Continued Hearing for Barthel Brothers Dairy for site inspection on 12/4/4/*
.lames, Paul, and Joseph Barthel, Owners- 11364 80th Street NFA Otgego, MN. in
conjunction with Chris B clow from B low, Inc Developer for PID# 118-800-244200,
t_ 41, 244200, 261200, 134201,42 1200,4.2 1300,_242400 and 262106 fora CT 1P
transfer of propeM building rights of one per folU acre subdivisions (Parcels to be
deed restricted from any further development until allowed to be rezoned) to a
clustered 7 -lot development of PID#118-800-134201, LOCATED IN Sec 13, T_ ��
121, R 24. Property is S of Co Rd #39 and E of Co Rd #19
Request is as follows* A Conditional Use Permit (CUP) to allow the following:
1. CUP to allow transfer of property IIghts of one per fora.,
subdivision to allow a 7 -lot clustered sub ivision
2. Preliminary Plat Approval
Chair Swenson - The Planning Commission continued the hearing to allow for a site
inspection on Saturday December 14, 1996. All the commissioners and Council
Representative Larry Fournier attended the inspection.
Chair Swenson - any comments resulting from the site inspection:
Bruce Rask Concerns:
Richard Nichols Concerns
Appearance of spot development
Setting a precedent
No limit on number of transfers
Prefers 80th St. to Co.Rd.39 site
Prefers 80th St. to Co.Rd.39 site
less impact.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING of December 18, 1996 cont'd Page 3
Paul Kolles - Lives near Dick Paffel. He doesn't farm.
12124 NE 95th St. Are you saying if there were eight farmers in that area
would it be an issue, but because it only effects one to two
farms it's not. My brother lives north of site, what if his
children want to farm are you going to take that away from
them. You need to get things in priority.
Glen Kolles Mr. Bulow will be looking at the river. I will be looking at
NE 95th St. the development. Let them have it on 80th Street.
Chris Bulow - In regard to the farming expansion in this area, I don't think it should be up
to any neighbor to decide. It should be up to the City Ordinances they should be allowed
to expand within the city's guidelines, whether it be doubling a herd or splitting off land. If
they are doing something controversial let the city handle it.
Chair Swenson - If no one else wishes to be heard I will close the Public Hearing and
bring the discussion back to the Planning Commission. We have had discussion and it
would be nice to have a motion on the table, however if you want to discuss some more
that's fine.
Bruce Rask stated that some interesting points were brought up. Number one, by the
Barthels deed restricting all their property, they will not be allowed to expand anymore.
Then it should be on 80th St. Chris Bulow said on Co. Rd.39 this will only effect two
farmers. He made the statement that these seven houses are justifiable because sewer is
needed in this area. That is not a reason to justify this housing development in my
opinion. What we have in the ordinance now is to preserve and maintain septic systems
not keep polluting to justify a sewer system. Still feels it is a bad location.
Richard Nichols - Agreed with what Bruce Rask. There are two items listed in the
ordinance that have latitude for discussion. Having to do with the impact on agriculture
and the impact on adjacent properties. Development is coming, it is a fact of life.
I do think it is set up because the property is hilly and not as easy to farm, but I don't think
it is right for us to set up the potential of that kind of an impact.
The project on paper looks good and I don't have a problem with the cul-de-sac, but I
don't think the development is in the right place.
Eugene Goenner - They pretty much meet all the conditions of the ordinance and follow
the criteria to be able to develop, but then I hear about the impact on the neighbors and it
gives me some concerns. At the same time the city has declared that agricultural livestock
is now a legal non -conformity in the city. The City is giving us mixed messages on how to
handle situations like this. It is a difficult issue for me to decide what is best.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING of December 18, 1996 cont'd Page 5
80 37 Acres,,S.ee. 22, Twn121, R23 and PID# 118-500-272200 - 40 Acres, Sec. 27,
Twp 121, R23.
Chair Swenson went over the request and turned the meeting over to Mr. Kirmis.
Mr. Kirmis stated that this is a discussion item. The potential applicants are just looking
for some feedback in terms of the land use right now. At this point I do not recommend
getting into the design specifics of the plan being submitted, but rather the acceptability of
the land use which is being proposed. This is somewhat of a unique property involving
120 acres of land. The northern 40 lie within the Urban Service Area and the Southern 80
lie within the Long Range Urban Service Area. Development is encouraged within the
Immediate Urban Service Area particularly when it constitutes infill. One issue relates to
sanitary sewer service. This area was included in the city's preliminary investigation for
the possibility of a sanitary sewer service district. Residential hook ups would be
promoted, these hook ups are needed to fund a sewer system.
Larry Koshak - The staff has put together a sewer service area with Treatment Plan.
Basically it would have to be financed by residential development. The availability, of
these forty's are critical in paying for a treatment facility. These three forty's are critical in
this particular area. As development occurs that is when the impact of the cost of the
facility would occur on the property, not at the time under agricultural use.
Chair Swenson - Are you saying that developing this way now, the impact money will still
be required.
Larry Koshak - If it were developed with one acre lots at this time I would say eliminate
that particular forty or those properties from the potential that the city would have to
initiate a sewer plan in the community and serve that particular area.
Bob Kirmis - As I said no formal application has been prepared. There are questions
regarding sewer study, no official study has been adopted. One course of action could be
to defer recommendation until a position is established on sewer. That needs to be known
before you endorse a project or turn it down. They are just looking for general feedback
as to whether it is worth while to proceed at this point. To accommodate this request
we'd need to amend the Immediate Urban Service Area to include the southern fortys.
Richard Nichols - I don't know what the legal rights are on the forty that is in the
Immediate Urban Service Area, but I am not in favor of extending it into the other eighty
until we have some kind of a decision on a sewer and water project.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING of December 18, 1996 cont'd Page 7
I talked with my two neighbors and they do not want sewer and water threw there. All I
am asking for is to get this 80 acres rezoned so they can get one acre lots. I'm right in the
middle of all that development. They have been building around me for over 25 years.
This developer says he will develop if he can get the other acreage to be one acre lots.
That is all we are asking for. When is that sewer and water coming, do I have to wait, I
think you a penalizing me. A developer will not come and buy unless he can develop. It
makes sense for me to sell the whole 120 acres all at one time. My developer is stuck in
Lakeville tonight and couldn't get here tonight, but he told me he wants to do the whole
thing at one time.
Chair Swenson - Went over the applicants request and asked Mr. Kirmis to report.
Mr. Kirmis - Richard Kincanon and Mr. Dennis Chuba, on behalf of Heritage Landing
Development, are requesting a rezoning of a 65 acre tract of land south of 85th St. and
west of Odean Avenue from A-1, Agricultural Rural Service to R-3, Residential
Immediate Urban Service. The subject site lies within the Immediate Urban Service Area
and in bounded on all sides by platted residential subdivisions. At this time the applicants
have only requested rezoning of the property. No subdivision approval has formally been
requested nor submitted to the city. The City's Land Use Plan suggests low density use of
the property. We feel this fulfills the Comprehensive Plan policy of infill development.
Don't see any problems and approval of the request is justified.
Chair Swenson - went over the procedure for a public hearing and opened the hearing
to the public for comment.
Jeaneen Ryther Concerned with 85th St. bearing up under more traffic
14242 85th NE In bad shape as it is now. Concerned with traffic, safety, and
speeding. How many lots are being planned.
Chair Swenson - If no one else wishes to be heard at this time you will have an
opportunity later on in the hearing. We will have the discussion among the Planning
Commission members.
Larry Fournier asked for the number of lots. Developer answered 41 lots.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING of December 18,19% cont'd Page 9
Elaine Beatty - The City Council at their last meeting, sent the CUP for John and Cheryle
Adams, back to the Planning Commission for re -hearing. I will notice that and have it on
the agenda.
Larry Fournier - at our last Planning Commission meeting it was asked how many
openings for candidates there were. I believe there are two openings. I have received
three applications. Also there are some terms that are up and the City Council submit a
memo if you wish to be re -appointed.
8_ Adjourn.
Ing Roskaft motioned to adjourn. Bruce Rask seconded. All in favor. Motion
carried unanimously.
The Planning Commission Meeting was adjourned at 9:45 PM.
Bruce Rask, Secretary
Recorded by: Carol A. Olson
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NORTHWEST ASSOCIATED CONSULTANTS
INC COMMUNITY PLANNING - DESIGN - MARKET RESEARCH
MEMORANDUM
TO:
FROM:
DATE:
RE:
FILE NO:
Otsego Mayor and City Council
Bob Kirmis
23 December 1996
Otsego - Barthel - Density Transfer CUP/Preliminary Plat/
Variance (Rolling Ridge Creek)
176.02 - 96.24
This memorandum is written as a follow up to the 18 December Planning Commission at
which the Planning Commission recommended that the City Council deny the Barthel
Brothers density transfer conditional use permit request (denial of conditional use permit
has the result of preliminary plat and variance denial). The Barthels are proposing to
transfer seven residential development rights to a single location south of County Road
39 and east of County Road 19.
A primary basis for the Planning Commission recommendation of denial was that the
Proposed residential cluster would adversely affect adjacent properties. Concern was also
indicated that the proposal may constitute "spot" development.
The Planning Commission's recommendation is contrary to the recommendation of
approval offered by our firm (see 11/11/96 report).
As an alternative to the current development proposal, the Planning Commission advised
the applicants that an alternative subdivision location along 80th Street would be looked
upon more favorably than the County Road 39 location currently proposed.
In consideration of this request, we feel it is important that the City Council take note of the
following:
5775 WAYZATA BOULEVARD, SUITE 555 ST. LOUIS PARK, MINNESOTA 554 1 6
PHONE 6 1 2-595-9636 FAX 6 1 2-595-9837
Purpose of Density Transfers. According to Section 20-51-5.1-1 of the Zoning
Ordinance, single family residential development rights within A-1 Zoning Districts may be
transferred to property under the same ownership for the purpose of preserving p roduc ive
farmlands by conditional use permit. It cannot be understated that the rima
allowing such transfers is the result of productive agricultural land pr servationurpose of
The land on which the applicants wish to cluster their seven development rights (adjacent
to County Road 39) has been documented as "marginal" for agricultural production. The
applicants have further indicated that such land area represents their "least productive"
land available. In this regard, we feel the purpose of the conditional use permit has been
satisfied.
According to the Wright County Soil Survey, soils along 80th Street (land under the
applicants' ownership) are primarily a Dundas and Ames silt loam (0-3 percent slopes) soil
type. The soil survey states that such associations are fair to good for crops and good for
pasture. As such, it appears that the subdivision location "suggested" by the Planning
Commission would not satisfy the primary conditional use permit criteria.
Clusters. As part of the Planning Commission's consideration of the request, concern
was voiced over the proposed subdivision constituting "spot" development by clustering
a significant number of dwelling units in a single location. While our office shares such
concern, it should be recognized that the Zoning Ordinance does not specify a maximum
number of dwelling units which may exist in a cluster. Also to be noted is that the
ordinance, as originally adopted, included a cluster limit of two dwellings. Against the
recommendations of our office, the Planning Commission and City Council amended the
A-1 density transfer requirements to delete the maximum cluster limit (August 1993). The
original intent of the "cluster cap" was to prevent the creation of mini -subdivisions.
Compatibility. As noted previously, a primary basis for the Planning Commissions
recommendation of denial was possible adverse effects upon adjacent properties. While
the location of a small scale subdivision in the midst of an agricultural area will inherently
produce compatibility concerns, we feel that the location of the subdivision along 80th
Street (as suggested by the Planning Commission) would result in far greater adverse
impacts upon both land use types. Such opinion is offered in consideration of the more
"intense" agricultural activities which exist north of 80th Street.
Safety. An additional item of concern noted at the Planning Commission meeting was
that of traffic safety along County Road 39. While safety is certainly an issue worthy of
concern, it is the opinion of our office that a consolidated access with various
improvements (i.e., twin lanes, stop sign, street lighting) represents a much safer condition
than would direct driveway access to the County road.
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Sewage Treatment Genuine Concerns exist in regard to the continued allowance of one
acre,. 4nsewered lots in the City. Should the subdivision in question require corrective
meaures (to on-site sewage treatment systems) at some future point, we agree with the
applicants that the subdivision's proposed proximity to the Riverwood Conference Center
is preferred over the 80th Street location suggested by the Planning Commission.
Continued system failures at the conference center likely will prompt the installation of
some sort of package system in the near future.
Hopefully, this memorandum has served to highlight various issues associated with the
Barthel request and further explain the rationale for our recommendation of approval.
This item is scheduled for City Council consideration on 13 January.
pc: Elaine Beatty
Andy MacArthur
Larry Koshak
Cris Bulow
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CITY OF OTSEGO
REQUEST FOR COUNCIL ACTION
AGENDA SECTION: DEPARTMENT: MEETING DATE
5 CONSENT AGENDA Elaine Beatty January 13, 1997 -
6:302M
ITEM NUMBER: ITEM DESCRIPTION: PREPARED BY: EB, cc
5.1. Consider Resolution Adopting an Official Newspaper
5.2. Consider Resolution Establishing Depositories for City Funds
BACKGROUND:
5.1 and 5.2. We are required to establish an official newspaper and
depositories for the City of Otsego at the first meeting of each new
year. The attached copies of the two Resolutions No. 97-1, Official
Newspaper and 97-2 Establishing Depositories are updated with the same
information as to Newspaper and Financial Institutions
as last years resolution.
STAFF RECOb24ENDATION :
This is a Council Decision. Staff feels that the Elk River
Star News meets the requirements for the largest number of our
citizens being reached, although a portion of our residents
in the Western end do have to subscribe and get their papers quite
late.._Maybe the Mayor would like to appoint a committee to look into
this issue and bring back a determination or solution to the problem.
At this time Staff recommends to approve 97-1 and 97-2 Resolutions.
Thank you,
Elaine
CITY OF OTSEGO
COUNTY OF WRIGHT
STATE OF MINNESOTA
RESOLUTION NUMBER 97-1
REPLACING RESOLUTION OF 1996 - 96-1
RESOLUTION ADOPTING AN OFFICIAL NEWSPAPER
WHEREAS, the Elk River Star News is a qualified newspaper of general circulation
within the City of Otsego:
BE IT RESOLVED that the City of Otsego designates the ELK RIVER STAR NEWS as
the City's official newspaper effective immediately.
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that all ordinances and any other matters which are
required by law to be published in an official newspaper, and all other matters which the City
Council shall deem advisable and in the public interest to be published, shall be published in the
ELK RIVER STAR NEWS.
DATED: January 13, 1997
LARRY FOURNIER, MAYOR
CITY OF OTSEGO
ATTEST:
Elaine Beatty, City Clerk/Zoning Adm.
( CITY SEAL)
CITY OF OTSEGO
COUNTY OF WRIGHT
STATE OF MINNESOTA
RESOLUTION NUMBER 97-2
REPLACING RESOLUTION OF 1996 (96-2)
RESOLUTION ESTABLISHING DEPOSITORIES FOR CITY FUNDS
WHEREAS, the City of Otsego each year must stipulate official depositories for City Funds,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that the City of Otsego designates the following
depositories as official city depositories of city funds:
Bank of Elk River, Elk River, Minnesota a
Investment Center Located at Bank of Elk River
First National Bank of Elk River - Elk River, Minnesota
Investment Center Located at First National Bank of Elk River -
Anoka, Office -Anoka, Mn.
Marquette Bank of Monticello - Monticello, Minnesota
Security Bank Northwest of St. Michael - St Michael, Minnesota
First Banks - FBS Investment Services, Inc.
Norwest Investment Securities - Minneapolis, Minnesota
Edward D. Jones & Co. - Northern Chicago Bank
Smith Barney - Chemical Bank Minneapolis
Minnesota Municipal Money Market Fund - St. Paul, Minnesota
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that to properly diversify and protect the City's funds the
City Treasurer is authorized to deposit up to two million dollars ($2,000,000.00) in each of these
depositories. Collateral is required for funds that are not directly invested in investment securities
that are insured by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation or other United States Government
Agencies. Investments shall be in accordance with investment securities allowable under the State of
Minnesota investment guidelines for municipalities. The City Treasurer shall deposit all or any part
of the City's funds into the approved depositories and withdraw the same when necessary, or when
directed by the City Council.
This Resolution was passed this 13TH day of January, 1997.
LARRY FOURNIER, MAYOR
CITY OF OTSEGO
ATTEST:
Elaine Beatty, Clerk/Zoning Adm.
(CITY SEAL)
DEPARTMENT: MEETING DATE
6.BOB KIRMIS CITY CLERK January 13, 1997 - 6:302M
ITEM NUMBER: ITEM DESC:K1Ff-LUN : erre t L) lvir.iviv:
Elaine Beatty, CC/ZA
6.2. Consider Fabian Sadowski - Concept plan review property is SW of 85TH ST and Page Ave
NE (Neal Krzyzaniak, Bridgeland Development Co and Peter J Knabele Terra Engr, Inc.
(Questions as to Zoning and Subdivision); PID- #1181500-223200, 80.37 Acres, Section 22, Twp.
121, R23 and Pm #118-500-172200,40 Acres, Section 27, Twp 121, R23 of his 120 acres.
BACKGROUND:
Attached is a sketch plan to review and the Owner, Fabian Sadowski, would like a general idea from the
Council if they can rezone this property from A-1 - Agricultural to R-3 Residential, Immediate Urban
Service Area. 40 Acres to the North of the property is in the Immediate Urban Service Area now. the
other 80 is in the area for 4 per 40 of the City. He is ready to retire and sell his land and a developer is
interested in a subdivision of one acre lots. Attached is the portion of the Planning Commission
Minutes pertaining to this item. It -is clear from the-P.C. discussion that some direction is needed from
the Council as to sewer and water.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION:
This is just an item for indication by the Council how they feel about the R-3 rezoning of this 120 acres.
Thank you,
e�2 Z2
Elaine
DEPARTMENT: PREPARED BY: MEETING DATE
9.COUNCIL ITEMS: Elaine Beatty,CITY CLERK January 13,1997-6:30PM
ITEM NUMBER: ITEM DESURIYTIUN:
9.6. Consider Approval of 1997 Rogers Fire Contract
BACKGROUND:
This is the first time we have had a Fire Contract with Rogers Fire Department (City of Rogers). The
amount per parcel for Rogers Fire Service in the annexed Frankfort area is $54.00 per parcel times
90 (Ninety) parcels for $4,860.00. This is slightly over the $4,846.51 quoted in the attached letter by
Rogers.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION:
Approve the attached Fire Protection Contract for 1997 Rogers Fire Service with approval by the City
Attorney (He has a copy of the Contract to review)
Thank you,
Cs
Elaine
CITY OF ROGERS
September 24, 1996
Ms. Elaine Beatty
8899 Nashua Avenue NE
Otsego, MN 55330
Re: 1997 Fire Contract Rate
Dear Elaine:
SEP 26;.��+;
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12) 428-2253
12913 MAIN STREET • ROGERS, MINNESOTA 55374
The City of Rogers Fire Department service contract rate will remain the same as the
current contracts on file from 1994. Based on the current rate, the 1997 Fire Contract for
Otsego will be: $4,846.51
The following information was used in preparing the 1997 contract amount:
Market Value: $11,014,800
Calculation: $11,014,800 x .00044 = $4,846.51
If you should have any questions, please feel free to contact me at 428-2253.
Sincerely,
Gary J. Eitel
City Administrator
FIRE PROTECTION CONTRACT
THIS AGREE11T, made and entered into by and between CITY OF
OTSEGO, County of, State of Minnesota, hereinafter called Otsego, and the
City of Rogers, a municipal corporation of Hennepin County, State of Minnesota,
hereinafter called Rogers;
WHEREAS, Otsego, deeming it advisable to have Roger's Fire Department and
Rogers' mutual aid fire contracts for:
THAT PORTION, formerly known as Frankfort Township, East of State Hwy.
101 and North of the Crow River.
WHEREAS, the parties hereto have by appropriate action authorized their
respective Town Board Chair/Mayor and Clerk to enter into a Contract for the furnishing
of said services,
NOW, THEREFORE, in consideration of mutual promises in this Contract, the
following conditions are agreed and accepted by both parties hereto:
I. OTSEGO AGREES AS FOLLOWS:
(a) They will pay to the City of Rogers, the annual sum of. 00044 of the market
value within its service area according to the most recent valuation for the year
in which services are provided for, compensation for such services.
(b) Compensation for providing fire protection service will be made on or before
July 30`h of each year.
(c) In addition thereto, Otsego shall pay no per hour charge.
(d) Otsego, will, to the best of its ability, provide to the servicing parties, the
names and addresses of such residents in the above described area, will notify
such residents of the service available to them and provide any telephone
number or numbers to call for fire protection, and will also provide any and all
reasonable services it reasonably can to aid speedy fire calls and responses.
(e) Rogers shall not be liable in any way to Otsego, to any person, firm, entity or
corporation for failure of the fire department to attend a fire, or to put out a
fire, or for damage to goods, or for any act or omission.
II. ROGERS AGREES AS FOLLOWS:
(a) They will furnish fire service and protection to the property located in Otsego,
above described, or arrange for fire service and protection through mutual aid
contracts.
(b) They will purchase, own and maintain in good order such fire apparatus and
equipment as it may consider necessary and suitable in their sole discretion for
fire service and fire protection for said fire zone.
(c) They will make every reasonable effort to promptly attend fires when notified
and will furnish not less than five firemen on each call, subject to paragraph
III(a)
FPCr&d
(d) They will make no claim against Otsego or its employees on account of
damage to their property while in the fire service of Otsego, and will further
hold Otsego harmless and will carry liability insurance insofar as negligent acts
of the firemen of Rogers are concerned.
(e) They will respond to a fire service call in one of the districts of Otsego
presently served by Rogers, if service is requested by the aforementioned
department; that said response shall be as soon as reasonably possible.
III. BOTH PARTIES AGREE AS FOLLOWS:
(a) In the event there are two or more fire calls at such time that it is impossible or
reasonably difficult to respond to all of them, Rogers shall respond in the order
that calls were received and will respond to the latter calls as soon as
reasonably possible. That, in the event Otsego requires fire services at a time
when Rogers' Fire Department has responded to prior fire call and cannot
respond promptly due to its presence at the first call, Rogers will promptly
notify the fire department nearest to Otsego with which Rogers has a mutual
aid fire contract which shall thereafter respond to Otsego's fire call.
(b) The roads and weather conditions in Otsego must be such that the fire can be
made with reasonable safety to men and equipment and the decision of the fire
chief of other fire department officer in charge shall be final as to whether road
and weather conditions make a run possible or advisable. Maintenance of roads
shall be the sole responsibility of Otsego.
(c) A copy of this agreement shall be posted at the fire department and also shall
be available at the City offices.
(d) Employees of Otsego may assist firemen of Rogers, upon request being made
by the department, and such employees shall function at the scene under the
direction of the fire department.
This contract replaces any existing contracts and agreements between the parties
and shall be and remain in force from January 1, 1997 through December 31, 1997, and
from year to year thereafter unless on or before September 1' of any year either party
gives notice to the other party of intention to amend or terminate this contract.
SIGNED AND SEALED THIS
ATTEST:
Clerk, City of Otsego
ATTEST:
Clerk, Cit gers
DAY OF 19 .
CITY OF OTSEGO
Mayor, City of Otsego
CITY OF ROGE
Ma or, ity of ogers
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01/06/97
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Facsimile (612) 682-7313
December 18, 1996
Otsego Mayor and City Council
Otsego City Planning Commission
8899 Nashua Avenue NE
Otsego, Minnesota 55330
RE: Rolling Ridge Creek Preliminary Plat
Honorable Mayor, City Council, and Planning Commission:
We have reviewed the preliminary plat for the above mentioned
development dated November 8, 1996, as prepared by Taylor Land
Surveying, Inc. The preliminary plat has not been reviewed with
respect to drainage, street improvements, and grading internal to
the plat, as the City of Otsego should review these aspects for
conformance to city standards. We offer the following comments
regarding impact to County State Aid Highway 39.
1. An access permit will be required for access to
CSAH 39. Requirements for access will be
identified in the permit special provisions, which
in this case, would include construction of a 12 -
foot wide right turn lane on CSAH 39. Specific
requirements of turnlane layout and section
strength will be identified as part of the access
permit provisions.
2. A right-of-way dedication of 55 feet from
centerline on CSAH 39 should be shown on the plat.
This will accommodate the right turn lane and also
leave room for future utilities. This is
consistent with the policy in the Wright County
Transportation Plan.
3. A preliminary review of the proposed access
location indicates that the sight distance will
meet the minimum required by the County.
4. Ditch drainage, approach grade, and sideslope
requirements for access to CSAH 39 will be
addressed as part of the special provisions of the
access permit.
Equal Opportunity / Affirmative Action Employer
Page.. 2
City of Otsego
December 18, 1996
We trust that this information is helpful to you. Please call me
or Wayne Fingalson, County Engineer, if you have any questions or
concerns regarding the above comments.
Sincerely,
A -44.
Virgil G. Hawkins, P.E.
Assistant County Engineer
pc: Wayne Fingalson, County Engineer
Elaine Beatty, City Clerk
Larry Koshak, City Engineer
File
CITY OF OTSEGO
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
of December 18, 1996
1. Chair Swenson will call meting to order:
Chair Swenson call the Planning Commission Meeting to order at 8:00 PM.
ROLL CALL:
Present: Chair, Carl Swenson, Commissioners, Ing Roskaft, Arleen Nagel,
Bruce Rask, Richard Nichols, Eugene Goenner, Jim Kolles
Staff: Bob Kirmis, City Planner, Jerry Olson, Building Official, Elaine Beatty, City
Clerk/Zoning Administrator, Carol A. Olson, Secretary
Council Representative, Larry Fournier
Councilmembers; Vern Heidner, Suzanne Ackerman
Councilmembers Elect; Virginia Wendel, Mark Berning
2. Consideration of the Minutes of December 4, 1996 P.C. Meeting_
Chair Swenson - The minutes of December 4, 1996 will be ready for review and approval
at the January 2, 1997 Planning Commission Meeting.
3. Continued Hearing for Barthel Brothers Dairy for site inspection on 12/4/96:
James, Paul, and Joseph Barthel, Owners- 11364 80th Street NE, O sego. MN. in
inction with Chris Bulow from Bulow, Inc. Developer for PI D# 118-800-244200,
)1,244200,261200,134201,2412000241300,24: 1106 for a CUP
transfer of proneM huilding rights of one per forty acre subdivisions (Parcels to be
deed restricted from any further development until allowed to he rezoned) to a
clustered 7 -lot development of PID#118:800-134201, LOCATED IN Sec. 13, TWA
121, R 24. Property is S of Co. Rd. #39 and E of Co. Rd. #19.
Request is as follows: A Conditional Use Permit (CUP) to allow the following,
1. CUP to allow transfer of property rights of one per forty -
subdivision to allow a 7 -lot clustered subdivision.
2. Preliminary Plat Approval
Chair Swenson - The Planning Commission continued the hearing to allow for a site
inspection on Saturday December 14, 1996. All the commissioners and Council
Representative Larry Fournier attended the inspection.
Chair Swenson - any comments resulting from the site inspection:
Bruce Rask Concerns: Appearance of spot development
Setting a precedent
No limit on number of transfers
Prefers 80th St. to Co.Rd.39 site
Richard Nichols Concerns: Prefers 80th St. to Co.Rd.39 site
less impact.
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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING of December 18, 1996 cont'd Page 2
Arlene Nagel Concerns:
Ing Roskaft Concerns:
Jim Kolles Concerns:
Prefers 80th St. to Co.Rd.39 site
Safety regarding proposed cul-de-sac length
Had no problem with Co.Rd.39 site
Felt land chosen to be least productive
Safety pulling out of development on Co.Rd.39
Prefers 80th St. to Co.Rd.39 site
Chair Swenson opened the hearing to the public and asked if anyone wished to be heard.
Stewart Turnquist Heard a lot of reasons why there should not be spot
11020 NE 95th St. development and this looks like spot development. I did
develop Riverwood, but when I bought that land it was set
for 15 homes. I saw it as a good thing making greater sense
to the area and bring money into the city. When I look at
this and keeping with preserving agriculture I see future
complaints. After Chris Bulow is gone with the money, I'm
left with neighbors complaining about a farming operation.
Dick Paffel - We were told there would be a holding pond to catch run
11722 95th St. off.. I don't see any pond, except drainage that goes directly
to the creek. That will raise cain with driveway. It has
overflowed about four times, not every year but this will
add to the driveway problem. Also concerned with the
safety pulling out on Co. Rd. 39. Felt Bruce Rask, Richard
Nichols and Jim Kolles covered his concerns.
Chris Bulow - The Barthel Bro's farmed for a number of years and lived in the area their
whole life. Site was picked because of the least impact and least productive property.
Additional length of the cul-de-sac is 90 feet to the end or 60 feet to the center.
Land now farmed will go back to wetlands. Safety concerns have been addressed by Wr.
Co. An easement for future road will be kept. We met with staff, asked what can we do
and came up with this plan. It meets every Ordinance, except for cul-de-sac length,
which was a staff recommendation. We drafted a set of plans originally with the 500 ft
cul-de-sac. Staff looked at it and didn't like lay out. We lengthened the cul-de-sac and
resubmitted the plans. We are trying to work within the guidelines and staff
recommendations. We feel that Co. Rd. 39 is the right place for this development.
Sewer would potentially be available sooner on Co.Rd.39 then on 80th St.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING of December 18, 1996 cont'd Page 3
Paul Kolles - Lives near Dick Paffel. He doesn't farm.
12124 NE 95th St. Are you saying if there were eight farmers in that area
would it be an issue, but because it only effects one to two
farms it's not. My brother lives north of site, what if his
children want to farm are you going to take that away from
them. You need to get things in priority.
Glen Kolles Mr. Bulow will be looking at the river. I will be looking at
NE 95th St. the development. Let them have it on 80th Street.
Chris Bulow - In regard to the farming expansion in this area, I don't think it should be up
to any neighbor to decide. It should be up to the City Ordinances they should be allowed
to expand within the city's guidelines, whether it be doubling a herd or splitting off land. If
they are doing something controversial let the city handle it.
Chair Swenson - If no one else wishes to be heard I will close the Public Hearing and
bring the discussion back to the Planning Commission. We have had discussion and it
would be nice to have a motion on the table, however if you want to discuss some more
that's fine.
Bruce Rask stated that some interesting points were brought up. Number one, by the
Barthels deed restricting all their property, they will not be allowed to expand anymore.
Then it should be on 80th St. Chris Bulow said on Co. Rd.39 this will only effect two
farmers. He made the statement that these seven houses are justifiable because sewer is
needed in this area. That is not a reason to justify this housing development in my
opinion. What we have in the ordinance now is to preserve and maintain septic systems
not keep polluting to justify a sewer system. Still feels it is a bad location.
Richard Nichols - Agreed with what Bruce Rask. There are two items listed in the
ordinance that have latitude for discussion. Having to do with the impact on agriculture
and the impact on adjacent properties. Development is coming, it is a fact of life.
I do think it is set up because the property is hilly and not as easy to farm, but I don't think
it is right for us to set up the potential of that kind of an impact.
The project on paper looks good and I don't have a problem with the cul-de-sac, but I
don't think the development is in the right place.
Eugene Goenner - They pretty much meet all the conditions of the ordinance and follow
the criteria to be able to develop, but then I hear about the impact on the neighbors and it
gives me some concerns. At the same time the city has declared that agricultural livestock
is now a legal non -conformity in the city. The City is giving us mixed messages on how to
handle situations like this. It is a difficult issue for me to decide what is best.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING of December 18, 1996 cont'd Page 4
Larry Fournier asked Larry Koshak if it is possible to do a drainage plan and not effect the
wetlands.
Larry Koshak - This was addressed in a letter dated December 16, 1996. The plan did not
have drainage or stormwater management plan. We do require ponding, there was none.
It is inadequate on that part. The impact on the downstream end has not been indicated to
us by the developers engineer. That is one issue that remains unagreed upon at this time.
I have not recommended approval at this time.
Larry Fournier - Do you think these drainage issues can be resolved.
Larry Koshak - They can be resolved with some major revisions to the plan.
Chair Swenson - The lots that exist near Co.Rd.39 on the north side are in the Long
Range Urban Service Area. The seven being proposed are in Agricultural zoning. I feel
this makes a significant difference.
Eugene Goenner - Regarding the letter from Larry Koshak, I have a question for the
developer. Under item number five regarding the drain tile, will there be any attempt to
maintain private easements over that tile.
Chris Bulow - As far as I am aware I'm not positive there is a draintile, there is a ditch
there that runs down to the wetlands. I haven't been informed if there is any drain tile
there. I don't believe there is any in that particular area. The average lots are closer to 2
acres, the majority are over two acre There are two one acre lots. We wanted to do five
acre lots. The zoning and the ordinance requires us not to make a lot bigger than two
acres.
Richard Nichols motioned to deny the Conditional Use Permit (CUP). Jim Kolles
seconded the motion.
Discussion:
Chair Swenson asked if Richard wished to add to the motion some rational
for making the motion to deny since it appears that the developer has met the specifics of
the ordinance.
Richard Nichols reiterated that the two conditions of the ordinance regarding the impact
on agriculture and neighbors is the rational.
Chair Swenson - I think it is well to keep in mind that several members felt that the
development would be looked upon more favorably in a different location, mainly the
other end.
Chair Swenson presented the question. The motion is to deny. All those in favor
hold your hands up. Motion passed unanimously to deny the CUP.
Elaine Beatty - This will be on the City Council Meeting of January 13, 1997.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING of December 18, 1996 cont'd Page 5
:I • 121, C L118-500-272200 41 Acres, Sec. 27,
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Chair Swenson went over the request and turned the meeting over to Mr. Kirmis.
Mr. Kirmis stated that this is a discussion item. The potential applicants are just looking
for some feedback in terms of the land use right now. At this point I do not recommend
getting into the design specifics of the plan being submitted, but rather the acceptability of
the land use which is being proposed. This is somewhat of a unique property involving
120 acres of land. The northern 40 lie within the Urban Service Area and the Southern 80
he within the Long Range Urban Service Area. Development is encouraged within the
Immediate Urban Service Area particularly when it constitutes infill. One issue relates to
sanitary sewer service. This area was included in the city's preliminary investigation for
the possibility of a sanitary sewer service district. Residential hook ups would be
promoted, these hook ups are needed to fund a sewer system.
Larry Koshak - The staff has put together a sewer service area with Treatment Plan.
Basically it would have to be financed by residential development. The availability of
these forty's are critical in paying for a treatment facility. These three forty's are critical in
this particular area. As development occurs that is when the impact of the cost of the
facility would occur on the property, not at the time under agricultural use.
Chair Swenson - Are you saying that developing this way now, the impact money will still
be required.
Larry Koshak - If it were developed with one acre lots at this time I would say eliminate
that particular forty or those properties from the potential that the city would have to
initiate a sewer plan in the community and serve that particular area.
Bob Kirmis - As I said no formal application has been prepared. There are questions
regarding sewer study, no official study has been adopted. One course of action could be
to defer recommendation until a position is established on sewer. That needs to be known
before you endorse a project or turn it down. They are just looking for general feedback
as to whether it is worth while to proceed at this point. To accommodate this request
we'd need to amend the Immediate Urban Service Area to include the southern fortys.
Richard Nichols - I don't know what the legal rights are on the forty that is in the
Immediate Urban Service Area, but I am not in favor of extending it into the other eighty
until we have some kind of a decision on a sewer and water project.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING of December 18,19% cont'd Page 6
We don't have a plan, but we all think we need a plan. Wouldn't make sense to put
another eighty acres in a projected area for development at this time.
Chair Swenson - I feel the same way, it's the wrong time.
Ing Roskaft - I don't think we can move on this at all until the question of sewer is
finalized.
Bruce Rask - It would be a benefit for the developer to wait at this point because if sewer
came in they could get three homes per acre. I would encourage them to wait and on the
other forty's that are zoned A-1 I would not be in favor of rezoning at this time.
Eugene Goenner - How long are we going to put someone on hold and wait for sewer.
We can't keep saying someday it is coming, is that five years, ten years, we need input as
to how long to aid in my decision. We need to know YES or NO to sewer.
Larry Fournier - I can't give you any answers right now, but it is one of the first issues the
new City Council will be working on. I feel this discussion is good.
Ing Roskaft - Originally we thought we had a working agreement with Elk River
regarding sewer and water. We set up a good part of our Comprehensive Plan based on
that, then Elk River backed out of furnishing any sewer availability at all. They now have
increased their capacity, but we don't know what that means to us.
Chair Swenson - The minutes will reflect the discussion. Unless someone has something to
add.
Richard Nichols - Gene made a good point. We have had discussions about holding
projects back because of sewer and water and we are at the point where if we don't get
that decision I am not in favor of waiting forever to develop. If they came back in a year
from now and asked the same question and we have the same answer about sewer and
water, I'd be inclined to go forward with the project. One of the things we need to do
with this kind of discussion is send a message to the council is we are looking to them for
guidance in the next year. I am not faulting them, it is a difficult task and an important
issue.
Bruce Rask - The way this was presented, phase one, approximately one year to finish.
phase two, phase three, we're talking six years or so. We downsized lot sizes in
Mississippi Parkwood because we believed sewer and water would be coming from Elk
River. We have continued splitting and building for the last five or six years because we
thought we were getting sewer and water pretty soon.
Fabian Sadowski - Owner of the land you are talking about. I am getting some mixed
reactions here. I have waited 20 to 30 years. I've had neighbors develop all around me.
Now I want to retire and sell and they're telling me I can't sell my land. I have met with
Elaine Beatty, Larry Koshak, Bob Kirmis, and the developer met with them.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING of December 18, 1996 cont'd Page 7
I talked with my two neighbors and they do not want sewer and water threw there. All I
am asking for is to get this 80 acres rezoned so they can get one acre lots. I'm right in the
middle of all that development. They have been building around me for over 25 years.
This developer says he will develop if he can get the other acreage to be one acre lots.
That is all we are asking for. When is that sewer and water coming, do I have to wait, I
think you a penalizing me. A developer will not come and buy unless he can develop. It
makes sense for me to sell the whole 120 acres all at one time. My developer is stuck in
Lakeville tonight and couldn't get here tonight, but he told me he wants to do the whole
thing at one time.
Chair Swenson - Went over the applicants request and asked Mr. Kirmis to report.
Mr. Kirmis - Richard Kincanon and Mr. Dennis Chuba, on behalf of Heritage Landing
Development, are requesting a rezoning of a 65 acre tract of land south of 85th St. and
west of Odean Avenue from A-1, Agricultural Rural Service to R-3, Residential
Immediate Urban Service. The subject site lies within the Immediate Urban Service Area
and in bounded on all sides by platted residential subdivisions. At this time the applicants
have only requested rezoning of the property. No subdivision approval has formally been
requested nor submitted to the city. The City's Land Use Plan suggests low density use of
the property. We feel this fulfills the Comprehensive Plan policy of infill development.
Don't see any problems and approval of the request is justified.
Chair Swenson - went over the procedure for a public hearing and opened the hearing
to the public for comment.
Jeaneen Ryther Concerned with 85th St. bearing up under more traffic
14242 85th NE In bad shape as it is now. Concerned with traffic, safety, and
speeding. How many lots are being planned.
Chair Swenson - If no one else wishes to be heard at this time you will have an
opportunity later on in the hearing. We will have the discussion among the Planning
Commission members.
Larry Fournier asked for the number of lots. Developer answered 41 lots.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING of December 18, 1996 cont'd Page 8
Mr. Kirmis - The print of the plat has been provided for informational purposes. The
decision tonight is in regard to the land use approval of the rezoning. Tonight does not
constitute approval of the subdivision plan. I'd rather wait to get into the particulars of the
design at such time as the subdivision application is processed.
Chair Swenson - gave the public another opportunity to be heard.
Virginia Wendel I only have one question. This has two cul-de-sacs and no one has
9357 NE 65thSt. made any comments about that. That they are unsafe, not wide
enough, but the Barthel one was turned down immediately, what is
he difference?
Chair Swenson stated that tonight we are not considering the lay out only the rezoning.
When the plat is formally presented those questions will be addressed.
Richard Nichols - one comment, the other project was not turned down because of the
cul-de- sac.
Chair Swenson closed the public hearing.
Ing Roskaft motioned to change the zoning from A-1, Agricultural to R-3,
Residential Urban Service. Eugene Goenner seconded. All in favor. Motion
carried unanimously.
Elaine Beatty - This will be on the next City Council Meeting on December 23, 1996,
because it is only for rezoning.
Mr. Kirmis - These are all draft amendments to the ordinances that the Planning
Commission has looked at before and discussed. It was suggested that these amendments
be grouped into a single hearing.
Elaine Beatty - gave February 5, 1997 for a hearing date as to allow time for noticing.
Ing Roskaft motioned to set the date for February 5, 1997. Richard Nichols
seconded. All in favor. Motion carried unanimously.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING of December 18, 1996 cont'd Page 9
Elaine Beatty - The City Council at their last meeting, sent the CUP for John and Cheryle
Adams, back to the Planning Commission for re -hearing. I will notice that and have it on
the agenda.
Larry Fournier - at our last Planning Commission meeting it was asked how many
openings for candidates there were. I believe there are two openings. I have received
three applications. Also there are some terms that are up and the City Council submit a
memo if you wish to be re -appointed.
8. Adiourn•
Ing Roskaft motioned to adjourn. Bruce Rask seconded. All in favor. Motion
carried unanimously.
The Planning Commission Meeting was adjourned at 9:45 PM.
Bruce Rask, Secretary
Recorded by: Carol A. Olson
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MEMORANDUM
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FROM:
DATE:
RE:
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NORTHWEST ASSOCIATED CONSULTANTS
COMMUNITY PLANNING - DESIGN - MARKET RESEARCH
Otsego Mayor and City Council
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13 January 1997
Otsego - Lin -Bar PUD
176.02 - 96.21
As part of the processing of the Lin -Bar PUD development proposal, the applicants have
inquired as to the possibility of waiving the City's resubdivision plan requirements. The
applicants' inquiry relates to a desire to centrally locate large, upscale homes upon one
acre lots.
Typically, single family residential lots platted within the City measure 150 feet in width.
Resultantly, a home is placed on one-half of the lot while the other one-half is reserved for
potential resubdivision. As you are aware, the purpose of such resubdivision plan
requirement is to provide a protective mechanism to accommodate future sanitary sewer
and water service while continuing to allow large lot single family subdivisions. By
providing such a mechanism, the City in the event a mandated need arises, is provided a
well planned method of accommodating future sewer and water service and associated
assessment costs.
It is the opinion of our office that the current resubdivision plan requirements should not
be waived in this or any other single family residential development. Such position is
based on the following:
1. The threat of ground water pollution continues to exist. Providing a mechanism to
more effectively deal with future sanitary sewer service is considered responsible
planning.
2. The City's adopted Comprehensive Plan specifically encourages platting
techniques which accommodate future resubdivision.
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3. Section 21-6-2.E of the Subdivision Ordinance states that on large lots which are
$object to potential replat, the preliminary plat shall indicate a logical way in which
the lots could be resubdivided in the future.
It is further the opinion of our office that the resubdivision requirement does not
necessarily require single family residences to be "off -center" on platted lots or restrict
buildable width. To be specifically noted is that the minimum 150 foot lot width
requirement imposed in R-3 Zoning Districts Is In fact a minimum. Nothing prevents a
developer to expand such width to provide Increased building areas. Also to be noted is
that alternatives do exist to the standard resubdivision plans utilized by developers which
would allow central placement of homes on lots (see attached Exhibit A).
While the addition of °upscale" housing within the City Is certainly desirable, we do not
believe home value should be considered a valid reason to compromise what Is
considered sound and responsible planning. As such, we do not support the applicants'
informal request to waive the City's resubdivision requirements.
Should, however, the City Council feel that such resubdivision requirement is not
appropriate, we would suggest an amendment to the Comprehensive Plan and Subdivision
Ordinance, both of which strongly encourage or require resubdivision plans.
A representative of our office will be In attendance at the 13 January City Council meeting
to discuss this matter further.
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Engineer's Agenda Items
City Council Meeting
January 13, 1996
)N OF MAINTENANCE ON TRAFFIC SIGNALS ON COUNTY & STATE
Councils request we have investigated the issue of the Maintenance
ignals. The City presently has two signals on TH 101 at CSAH 39
Which maintenance responsibilities are mandated.
o this packet are 6 (six) pages of information faxed to us by Beverly
signal Design Engineer with Mn/DOT on the subject.
1 - Maintenance Participation Policy Reasoning
This article attempts to explain the cost sharing on the
signals. Where signals are placed in an intersection with
County Roads the County is the local agent. In actuality the
Counties has passed the Maintenance responsibility on to
Cities and Townships by establishing policies as shown on
Pages 4 & 5.
2 - Typical cost for power on a Signal
In all cases the local agency must pay the power costs for
the signal. These costs will vary on type of signal and the
cost per KWH.
e 3 - Mn/DOT Directory for signals and lighting Department
Bev Farraher is our contact person.
e 4 & 5 Construction Cost & Maintenance Cost Policy in the Eight
Metro County Area
As you will note Wright County's policy is not much
different than the other counties who have passed the
Maintenance cost on to the Cities. Apparently this is
common policy throughout the State for Counties to pass
this cost off.
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Page 6 - List of Contractors who are interested in the Maintenance
Work
This list from Mn/DOT shows area contractors who have
expressed interest to the State in performing maintenance
on signals. Cities could contract with these contractors and
any others for that service.
The list of Minor Maintenance items to be assumed by the City in Wright
County are:
1.
Relamp
6. Paint luminary mast arm ext.
2.
Cleaning
7. Luminary Relamp and clean
3.
Painting
8. Luminary Replacement
4.
Power Connect Fee
9. Luminary Monthly Power
5.
Monthly Power Costs
The recommendation of Mn/DOT and the County is that the City of Otsego have
firm agreements with contractor(s) for all of these above services. The
contractors can be Mn/DOT itself, Power Utilities (Elk River & Wright Hennepin
Power), and/or a private contractor.
Also be aware that the cost of maintenance for the signal at CSAH36 and
TH 101 will be shared with City of St. Michael upon completion of TH 101 .
(REFER TO 7.1) 62ND ST. NE MAINTENANCE ISSUES
ANY OTHER ENGINEERING BUSINESS
agenda1.13
Item 8.1
10-1494
Maintenance Participation Policy Reasoning
The Department of Transportation cost participation and
maintenance policy states that the Department shall while responsible for the major maintenance of the signal
gtreet(tem hall be
the local agency(ies) responsible for e and ower costs (both
responsible for the minor maintenance Ma -or maintenance includes
equipment, labor, materials, connection and monthly Costs).Major
overhead to maintain and
replace overhead and underground equipment which would
include the controller, cabinet, loop detectors, conductors,
interconnect cable, poles, heads, and pedestals as necessary.
Minor maintenance includes the labor, equipment, and materials
for painting the signal system as appropriate, replacing
luminaires as necessary, relamping the signal heads and
luminaires when needed and cleaning the signal system
components as appropriate.
The intent of the Department's policy is to distribute equally
ongoing costs of the s
the
ignal system betweenagencies the
involved. While the signal system will operated
erated b responsibility
Department of Transportation, the local agency's
for the minor maintenance and power costs indicates their
ongoing commitment to the signal system itself.
Some costs from recent years which display the cost Split
ercentages associated with this policy are as follows: mato
maintenance for Department signal systems is approximately
$1,700 per signal system per year, minor maintenance for
typical intersections is approximately $300 per signal system per
year, and power costs (excluding connection charges which
vary) are approximately $1,300 per signal system per year.
These typical costs show that the costs would be shared
approximately equally by the Department and the local
agency(ies).
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Red Vehicle Signal (300 mm Ball and Arrow) Indications
incandescent (INC) and Light Emitting Diode (LED) Fact Sheet
Assumotlons:
• Yellow and green vehicle indications shall continue to use current incandescent
technology until new technology has been tested and cost, maintenance,
operation and power consumption issues
information re resolved.
consists of 1 2 red ball,
• The typical intersection used to compile this
yellow ball, green ball indications and 4 red arrow, yellow arrow, and green
arrow indications. (This assumes protected left turn operation for the mainline
and single phase cross street phasing.)
Power Consumption: (Cost of Power Assumed to be 50.0663/KWH)
Total Annual Power Cost = $1371.36
Typical Intersection - Incandescont Indications
Typical Intersection - LED and )ncandeucant Indications
300 mm 3alls and Arrows
Yellow (INC)
Green (INC)
Power
Find (INC)
Power
Wattagc
Duty Cycle
Annual KWH
� Annual Cost
69
150
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3%
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37%
Duty Cycle
80%
18.1
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788.4
$1.20
$32.24
i Annual Cost
$52.27.
Total Annual Power Cost = $1371.36
Total Annual Power Cost = $637.32
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Typical Intersection - LED and )ncandeucant Indications
300 mm Balls
300 mm Arrows
Power
Wattagc
Duty Cycle
Annual KWH
� Annual Cost
Red ILED)
20
60%
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486.2
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Total Annual Power Cost = $637.32
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MN / DO
METRO DIVISION SIGNALS AND LIGHTING
EASY REFERENCE GUIDE
TYPICAL ISSUES AND QUESTIONS
WHO TO CALL —
'L1GHTlAfG OCTOBER 4, 1996
DESIGN/PLAN PREPARATION
PERMANENT-------------------------------------- SUE LODAHL 582-1095 PAGER 640-0610
EAST METRO--------------------------------- MART HOLZEMER 582-1096
WEST METRO--------------------------------- DAVE SCOTT 582-1097
TEMPORARY ---------------------------------------GREG BRANDT 797-3128 MOBILE 670-0531 PAGER 880-0281
MAINTENANCE/MALFUNCTIONS-------- ESS 7,00AM-4,00PM M -F 725-2310
AFTER HOURS 582-1550 (METRO DISPATCH)
SIGNALS
DESIGN/PLAN PREPARATION
BEY FARRAHER 779-5192/797-3133
BY MN/OOT FORCES ----------------------------- OR TECHNICIAN ON JOB
CONSULTANT DESIGNED OR
CITY/COUNTY DESIGNED ------------••---------- LYNNETTE ROSHELL 797.3140
PROJECTS LET/STAKING/INSPECTION
CONSTRUCTION LIAISON ------------------------- TONY WINIECKI 797-3134/779-5186 PAGER 880-3875
HOWARD LEE 779-5171 MOBILE 802-1775 PAGER 579-9139
DAN LOWE 797-3198 MOBILE 802-1784 PAGER 880-6708
OPERATIONS --•-- - -------'TONY WINIECKI 797-3134/779-5106 PAGER 880-3875
(EAST) 808 BETTS 779-5189 PAGER 880-9024
(WEST) DALE BURFEINO 797-3137 MOBILE 817-8220 PAGER 660-8553
MAINTENANCE/MALFUNCTIONS---------Ess 7100AM-4iCOPM M -F 725-2310
AFTER HOURS 582-1550 (METRO DISPATCH)
RAMP AWETERING i TRAFFIC VANAGEMENT CENTER (TAX)
PATTY BEONARZ 341-7276 PAGER 640-6815
DESIGN /PLAN PREPARATION -----------JERRY CHRISTENSEN 341-7296
OPERATIONS -------------------------------------- JOHN BIENIEK 341-7324
JOHN HEIBEL 341-7265
CONTROL ROOM 341-7249
MAINTENANCE/MALFUNCT IONS--------- ESS - ROY CHRISTIANSON 341-7271
AFTER HOURS PAGER 650-1269
GENERAL ADDRESS AND TELEPHONE INFORMATION
LOCATIONS
MAILING
0DRESSES
RECEPTIONIST/
MAIN FAX #
TRAFFIC FAX #
ADMINISTRATION
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2055 NORTH
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LILAC DRIVE
OAKDALE, MN
GOLDEN VALLEY. MN
55128
55422
779-5000
797-3000
779-5170
797-3181
779-5258
797-3152
FAX # (OFFICE OF AL PINT)
1500 WEST
COUNTY RD. B2
ROSEVILLE, MN
55113-3105
582-1000
582-1131
582-1033
582-1302
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297-4429
628-6931
T. M. C.
1101 4TH AVE. SO
MINNEAPOLIS. MN
55404
341-7500
341-7239
General Truck Highway and County Road Signal System Construction Cost and Maintenance Guide
Mn/DOT Metro Division
NOTES: • The contents of this chart are based on past practice and known county policy. Please contact Ms. Beverly Farraher at 779-5192 with any corrections or suggestions
for chart improvements.
Basic cost participation and maintenance responsibilities are established by Department of Transportation policy. This is a preliminary pl anni fig /design guideline which
assumes a TH/County Road or C.S,A.H. intersection. Individual county policy or state aid participation may vary,
ASSUMPTIONS: • Installation/revision is warranted and approved by both agencies.
• The DOT operates and provides major maintenance for the signal system, including EVP, street lights, and any LED indications (for the duration for the warranty period).
9 The DOT assumes the pole and mast arm signing maintenance.
0 The DOT assumes responsibility for all systems installed for the purpose of traffic staging for DOT programmed and administered projects.
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Contractors Interested in Maintenance Contracts
for Cleaning and Relamping Signal Systems
Mr. Daniel E. Balling
Project Manager
Egan -McKay Electrical Contractors, Inc.
7100 Medicine Lake Road
Minneapolis, MN 55427
544-4131
Mr. Robert Gorg
Project Manager
colliSys
Collins Electrical Systems, Inc.
4990 North Highway 169
New Hope, MN 55428-4026
535-6000
Mr. Leonard Deeg
Director of Field Services
Collins Electrical Construction Co.
278 State St.
St. Paul, MN 55107
224-2833
Mr. Don Franz
Killmer Electric Co., Inc.
9702 -85th Ave. No.
Maple Grove, MN 55369-1594
425-2525
Mr. Terry Fountain
Peoples Electrical Contractors
227 East Fillmore Avenue
St. Paul, MN 55107
227-7711 -
Mr. Doug Bischofs
Design Electric Inc.
P.O. Box 1252
St- Cloud, MN 56302
612-252-4276
Mr, Tom McKay
Project Manager
Polyphase Electric, Inc.
2325 Endicott Street
St. Paul, MN 55114
612-644-9614
Please refer to your local telephone directory
for other available contractors.
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DEPARTMENT: PREPARED BY: MEETING DATE
9.COUNCIL ITEMS: Elaine Beatty,CITY CLERK January 13,1997-6:30PM
ITEM NUMBER: ITEM Dh;6Ukt IeTIUN :
9.4. Discussion of property owned by the -City of Otsego on 80TH ST NE (See letter from Mark
Berning PID #118-800-251101, Sec 25, R24)
BACKGROUND:
New Council Member, Mark Berning asked me to add this item to the Agenda. (See letter attached
from Mark). I have also attached a map of this property to show you where it is. This is for discussion
by the Council. The City did take this property over under the tax forfeiture, the City always has the
first option on it, because they are owed the back taxes. The condition of accepting the property is that
the City use it for public use only or park land etc. Mark Berning wants to be up -front on this as a new
Council Member.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION:
Council discuss this issue and Staff feels that as long as there is not a need at this time for a park here it
is better to have it maintained by someone. One issue that has not been addressed on this property is
there is a- well that has not been abandoned: Perhaps we should discuss and -solve this problem as it is a
City liability.
Thank you,
Elaine
nuar y i . 199-
T:) Otsego Co L:ncil:
in 1979 a house burnt to the ground on 50th St. The 2 1/2
acre property- was abandoned by tl:e owners and became a
dumpingground for People. In 1950 neighbors Collin Ruch
and Waiter Berning & Sons Inc. decided to care for the
property. Collin Ruch began mowing the road frontage and
storing pre—split wood next to his yard. Walter Berning
Sons Inc. began farminu appporimately 1 to 1 1/2 acres in
the rear of the lot. 50th parties Tried to purchase the
property at one time.
In 1991 or 1992 the city of Otsego claimed the ro ertytiu�e
before it reached the tar forfeiture auction. A
Walter Berning & Sons Inc. asked the council,"What is your
intent for the��propertC' The council responed,"It is for
a future park. Neighbors of the property then wanted to
know who would do the upkeep of the property? The council
verbally decided to allow the current careworkers to
continue the up keep of the property and give them
sufficient notice when the city found a use for the land
because: 1) It would cost the city- more to maintain it and
2) The neighbors were keeping it up and getting a little
use out of the land and 3 I� was no longer a Tandfill.
This situation poses as a possible conflict because I, Mark
Berning, am a part owner of Walter Bernina & Sons Inc.
I am asking the council to do one of two things: 11 Have a
motion to continue allowing Collin Ruch and Walter erning
& Sons Inc. to continue maintaining the property and be
properly notified when the city wishes to convert its use
or _) Have the city start maintaining the 2 1/2 acre
property.
The above party's only interest is that it does not become
a dumping ground like it was at one time.
ThWrB
ou. ,
erning
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NORTH
LEGEND
PROPERTY IDENTIFICATION NUMBER
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PREPARED BY: LYNN HARTLEY 5/91 SHEET
DEPARTMENT:
PREPARED BY:
MEETING DATE
9.COUNCIi IVES:
`_aine Beat�y,CITY
CLER�
a -_nary 13, 1997-6.331PY
ITEM NUMBER: ITEM DESCRIPTION:
9.5. SET WORKSHOP DATES:
a. Workshop for Sewer and Water and Comprehensive Plan 'Tactics
Study (Jan. 21st, 1997 - 6:30PNI)
b. Workshop/Informational Meeting for Council/Boards & Commissions
c. Workshop for Re -organization discussion (Employees)
BACKGROUND:
a. Self explanatory (This was held up for the new Council to work on these issues) Dave Licht has a
heavy schedule and this date is to accommodate having him at this workshop.
b. This is on the Agenda as a date to meet with all the Boards and Commissions and give them
information as to their jobs and responsibilities and be able to show them some of the training
videos we have (Open meeting law and Roberts Rules of Order). A time for the Council and
professional and City Staff to be able to meet with them all together and give any direction.
c. This is a Workshop to talk about re -organization of City and employee issues.
STAFF RECOMtiIENDATION:
Set the Sewer and Water and Comp. Plan Tactics Workshop for Jan 21; 1997 at 6:30PM. Set dates for
b. and c. that meet the schedules of all Council and Staff Members involved.
Thank you,
Elaine
DEPARTMENT: MEETING DATE
7.ANDY MAC ARTHUR, CITY ATTORNEY CITY CLERK January 13,1997-6:30PM
ITEM NUMBER: ITEM DESCRIPTION: PREPARED MEMO:
Elaine Beatty, CC/ZA
7.1. Discussion of maintenance of privately owned streets -(62ND ST NE)
BACKGROUND:
As a lot of you know, the Council voted to discontinue snowplowing of private driveways in the City of
Otsego as of January 1, 1997 and a notice was sent to the people who have been receiving and paying
for this service. We now have a conflict with a neighbor of 62ND ST NE who says that this is a
driveway and should not be plowed by the City. (The City has been plowing this street and has
continued after the first of January). The addressed of the people on this street is 62ND ST NE. We
show it on our maps as 62ND- ST NE, which is in our grid system. The street is a privately- owned street
with each of the seven people on the street having a portion of the private easement and a 14' easement
along the south side -of the street being held by the -owner of the -farm at the East end of the -street. The -
City has -plowed this -street -for the 10 years -I have been at -the -city and I don't know how much longer
than that. The -set fee -for snowplowingis split among the seven residents on the street. The -original
motion was for -private driveways. This is clearly a street and the only non --conforming street of this
type in the City (we have a number of non -conforming driveways). The issue needs to be discussed by
the Council to determine how to handle. There is possibly a safety issue on this street for fire and
emergency vehicle. Andy MacArthur, City Attorney will be present to discuss this further.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION:
Council discuss this issue and decide how to handle. (See information from Andy MacArthur on this
item)
Thank you,
Elaine
William S. Radzwill
Andrew J. MacArthur
Michael C. Court
Megan M. McDonald
January 8, 1997
RADZWILL & CO URI
Attorneys at Law
705 Central Avenue East
PO Boz 369
St. Michael, MN 55376
(612) 497-1930
(612) 497-2599 (FAX)
City Council Members
City of Otsego
c/o Elaine Beatty, City Clerk
8899 Nashua Avenue NE
Elk River, MN 55330
RE: 62nd Street N.E.
Dear Council Members:
I have been asked to comment upon the status of 62nd Street N.E.
and the issue of maintenance of that roadway. I have reviewed
various maps and documents, but have not exhaustively analyzed the
matter. Preliminarily, I have come across the following;
1. It appears that the road was designated as 62nd street on the
County Surveyors half sections dated back to 1974.
2. At this time there is a street sign designating it as 62nd
Street and the houses on the roadway are addressed on 62nd street.
3. The current City maps indicate that it is designated as 62nd
Street.
4. According to the City Engineer, it was not designated and
recorded as a town road when the City (then township) recorded town
roads.
5. From documents reviewed, it appears that a one rod dedication of
an easement for roadway purposes was made between the owners of the
various properties fronting on the road.
6. At this time no other document has been located dedicating any
portion of the roadway to the public.
7. The roadway has been maintained by the City for a period of time
Letter to Otsego City Council
January 8, 1997
Page -2
and those living along the roadway have paid for at least some of
the maintenance through direct billing.
8. The road does not meet current City road specifications.
9. The City has recently adopted a policy under which they will no
longer plow or maintain private driveways.
The initial question is whether or not this is a public or private
roadway. Based upon the documents reviewed it appears that it is a
private roadway. The city ordinances contain no definition of
driveway or private road.
Minn. Stat. 160. 05, Subd. 1 states, "When any road or portion of a
road has been used and kept in repair and worked for at least six
years continuously as a public highway by a road authority, it
shall be deemed dedicated to the public to the width of the actual
use and be and remain, until lawfully vacated, a public highway
whether it has ever been established as a public highway or not."
However, the case law interpreting that statute indicates that the
factors involved in evaluating whether or not a road is public or
private are use by the public (which can be very minimal), and
maintenance at the expense of the road authority. Town of Belle
Prairie v. Kliber, 448 NW2d 375, 379 (Minn. App. 1989) and
Shinneman v Arago Township, 288 NW2d 239, 242 (Minn. 1980).
Based upon this preliminary analysis, it is unclear whether this
roadway can be properly designated as a public road or a private
road.
If maintenance is to continue on this road it should only be done
so under a written agreement which includes provisions to indemnify
and hold harmless the City.
In my opinion, it is not good policy to have the City plowing
private roads, but the Council should be aware that potential
liability exists no matter what action the Council takes in this
matter.
I will be available to answer any questions you might have
regarding this issue at the City Council meeting on Monday, January
13.
VeryNjj.a7cAr
,
A d hur
RADZRI
Letter to Otsego City Council
January 8, 1997
Page. .3
Encls.
cc: Larry Koshak, Hakanson Anderson
Bob Kirmis, NAC
§ 160.04
Note 5
HIGHWAYS; ROADS
to § 117.01 et seq. Op. Atty.Gen., 817—N, additional right of way for roads estab-
Sept. 5. 1946. lished by town and county boards could
Proceedings pursuant to former § 160.02 have been taken under § 117.01 et seq. Op.
(see, now, this section) to condemn land for Atty.Gen.1922. No. 393, p. 293.
160.041. Repealed by Laws 1959, c. 500, art. 6. § 13
Historical Note
This section related to railroad bridges
over public highways. See, now. § 165.03.
160.05. Dedication of roads
Subdivision 1. Six years. When any road or portion of a road has
been used and kept in repair and worked for at least six years continu-
ously as a public highway by a road authority, it shall be deemed
dedicated to the public to the width of the actual use and be and remain,
until lawfully vacated, a public highway whether it has ever been
established as a public highway or not. Nothing contained in this
subdivision shall impair the right, title, or interest of the water depart-
ment of any city of the first class secured under Special Laws 1885,
chapter 110. This subdivision shall apply to roads and streets except
platted streets within cities.
Subd. 2. Roads on and parallel to railroad right-of-way. The con-
tinued use of any road by the public upon and parallel to the right-of-way
of any railway company shall not constitute such a road a legal highway
or a charge upon the town in which the same is situated, and no right
shall accrue to the public or any individual by such use.
Laws 1959, c. 500, art. 1, § 5. Amended by Laws 1973, c. 123, art. 5, § 7; Laws
1982, c. 424, § 40; Laws 1984. c. 562, § 5.
Historical Note
Derivation:
Minn.St.1957, §§ 160.121. 160.131.
Laws 1957, c. 943, §§ 13. 14.
Minn.St.1953, §§ 160.19, 160.20.
Laws 1949, c. 566, § 1.
Laws 1949, c. 158. § 1.
St.1927, §§ 2590, 2591.
Gen.St.1923, §§ 2590. 2591.
Laws 1921, c. 323, §§ 50, 51.
Gen.St.1913, §§ 2563, 2564.
Laws 1913, c. 235, §§ 76, 77.
Rev.Laws 1905. §§ 1197, 1198.
Gen.St.1894, §§ 1832, 1880.
Laws 1891, c. 21, § 1.
Laws 1879, c. 51, § 2.
Gen.St.1878, c. 13, § 47.
Laws 1877, c. 50, § 1.
The 1973 amendatory act was a general
authority permitting the consolidation of
the terms "villages" and "boroughs" into
14
the term "cities" or the substitution of the
term "statutory cities" for "villages"
and/or "boroughs."
The 1982 amendatory act was a Revisor's
Bill correcting erroneous, ambiguous, omit-
ted and obsolete references and text, elimi-
nating certain redundant, conflicting and
superseded provisions. The amendment re-
vised subd. 1 which formerly read:
"When any road or portion thereof shall
have been used and kept in repair and
worked for at least six years continuously
as a public highway, the same shall be
deemed dedicated to the public to the width
of two rods on each side of the center line
thereof and be and remain, until lawfully
vacated, a public highway whether the
same has ever been established as a public
CITY OF OTSEGO
REQUEST FOR COUNCIL ACTION
AGENDA SECTION: DEPARTMENT: MEETING DATE
ANDY MAC ARTN7.JR Elaine Beatty ,January 13, 1997 -
6:30PM
ITEM NUMBER: ITEM DESCRIPTION: PREPARED BY: ES,CC
7.3. Any other Legal Business
BACKGROUND:
The proposed Ordinance for Fire Charges was addressed at the Council.
The City Attorney was asked to review the Ordinance and comment.
See attached information. Andy will be here to answer any questions.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION:
This is a Council Decision. The Staff recommended approval of this
Ordinance.
Thank you,
Elaine
William S. Rad --will
Andrew J. MacArthur
Michael C. Couri
Megan M.. McDonald
January 9, 1997
RADZWILL & COURI
Attorneys at Law
705 Central Avenue East
PO Box 369
St. Michael, MN 55376
(612) 497-1930
(612) 497-2599 (FAX)
City Council Members
City of Otsego
c/o Elaine Beatty, City Clerk
8899 Nashua Avenue NE
Elk River, MN 55330
RE: Proposed Ordinance— Fire Charges
Dear Council Members:
At the request of the Council I have reviewed the proposed
ordinance for fire service charges and find it to be acceptable
with the following changes which make it applicable to all
jurisdictions.
I have enclosed a final draft for passage at the January 13 Council
meeting.
very truly yours,
ew. .;MacAthur
RADZWIt" COURI
Encl.
CITY OF OTSEGO
COUNTY OF WRIGHT
STATE OF MINNESOTA
ORDINANCE NO.
CITY OF OTSEGO ORDINANCE PERTAINING TO DEFECTIVE OR MALFUNCTIONING
EMERGENCY ALARM SYSTEMS WITHIN THE CITY OF OTSEGO.
The City Council of the City of Otsego ordains as follows:
Section 1. Any false alarm call to an individual, or business that,
in the opinion of Fire Chief having jurisdiction over the area, was
the result of a defective or malfunctioning alarm system will
receive a notice outlining this policy, indicating a second false
alarm call within the calendar year will subject the property owner
to a $100.00 charge. The notice will also indicate that three or
more false alarms during the calendar year will result in the
property owner being charged $250.00 for each additional false
alarm.
Section 2. Any unpaid service charge shall be placed as a special
assessment against the property pursuant to Minn. Stat. 429.101,
after proper notice and hearing.
ADOPTED this day of January, 1997.
IN FAVOR:
OPPOSED:
CITY OF OTSEGO
Larry Fournier, Mayor
Elaine Beatty, City Clerk