05-06-92 PCCITY OF OTSEGO PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF 5/6/92 AT 8PM
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Chair Swenson called the meeting to order at 8PM.
The
The
following members
ING ROSKAFT
MARK WALLACE
CARL SWENSON
were present:
BRUCE RASK
RON BLACK/C. REP.
following staff was present:
BOB KIRMIS ELAINE BEATTY
KATHY LEWIS
GENE GOENNER
JUDY HUDSON
First on the Agenda was the consideration of Minutes.
Wallace motioned to approve 3/25/92 Minutes. Rask
seconded the motion. Motion carried unanimously.
Roskaft motioned to approve 4/15/92 minutes. Wallace
seconded the motion. Motion carried unanimously.
JON OLSON - 14151 87TH ST NE, Otsego, MN - Lot 17, Block 1,
Vasseur's Oak Grove Estates. PID #118-031-001170. Request
is for a CUP to construct a 40X48' accessory structure and an
Interim Use Permit to allow the storage of a vehicle in
excess of 12,000 pounds (dump truck) within the R-2 Zoning
District.
Swenson informed the audience how the Hearing will be
conducted and asked if the proper Hearing Publication,
Posting and Mailing had been done. Beatty answered Yes.
He then turned the meeting over to Kirmis for review of NAC's
Report of April 23, 1992 on the Olson CUP and Interim Use
Permit. (See Pg 2 & 3 of Recommendations of this report).
Kirmis noted that the City Engineer, Larry Koshak has
proposed three additional conditions:
1. The site plan be revised to show existing drainage
way.
2. A drainage easement way be required 25' on center.
3. A 10' easement be required along all property lines.
It was stated that Radzwill's concerns were with Otsego's
Nuisance Ordinance.
Mr Olson presented the Commission with pictures he had
with screening all around the property.
Kirmis noted he had been out at the site and the
building size does seem common for the area.
The Hearing was then closed and brought back to the
Planning Commission.
Wallace asked if the building was a pole type building?
Olson alis wered Yes it would be steel sided in the same color
as the primary structure.
Rask said it is an interim use and is a creation of an
oversized building and wondered if the permit was terminated.
would the building be left there? Answer" . Yes.
Swen-con noted he had done a site inspection and there
was an oversized building to the east of the prop< rt: , on.- on
F3STH and two west on O'Brian Ave, so it is not unique to ti -,.e
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Olson explained that the house is light blue and the new
buildinq'will match and have a white steel roof the same as
the shingles on the house.
Swenson said he feels we are anxious to make as few
deviations to the Ordinance as possible and asked if the
building could be reduced so the pitch could be 16' instead
of 18' to meet the codes? He said if we could avoid the
variance on height it would be desirable. Olson said he
could change it.
Wallace also did a site inspection and agreed that the
surrounding buildings are similar, but stated he has a
problem with the siding and roof material.
When asked about full loads being hauled by his truck
Olson said he may be bringing in a little fill for garage but
it would be no more weight than a garbage truck and he does
not have loads on when bringing the truck home.
Roskaft stated he would rather see the building 18' tall
on 4 to 1 pitch so it doesn't cave in the building in a
snowstorm.
Olson said the property is surrounded with pine trees
and cottonwoods and the 2' extra building height would not be
seen from the street.
Wallace said he has a major problem with the materials
used in the building.
Kirmis stated it needs to be considered if it would
be the same or similar quality as the principal structure.
The question is do you consider this similar?
Wallace stated he does not consider this same or
similar.
Roskaft said that area has large buildings and pole shed
structures and the Staff recommended this as far as he can
interpret NAC's Report. He feels we should allow it. He
would prefer to see a higher roofline and the inside storage.
Wallace agreed that the building is needed but is
concerned with a precedent being set with the standard metal
building with metal roof.
Goenner said he agrees with Wallace on the outside
facing and roof material.
Rask is concerned with the vehicle over 12.000 Lbs.
gross weight.
Kirmis said if a guy has a legal Home Extended Business
and truck is part of the business it is grandfathered in. We
consider this an Interim Use Permit and impose some
conditions. The Interim Use Permit is for a reason.
Wallace said he feels the building will be good for that
u -21r, and sees a need.
Roskaft said this building will be used for stora,ie and
not a business down the road.
Roskaft motioned to grant the CUP and Interium Use
Permit as proposed in NAC's Report of April 23, 1992. Lewis
seconded the motion_
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Rask asked what it would cost for asphalt shingled roof
and stick built building?
Kirmis said he had checked with Big Lake Lumber and it
is approximately $2.00 per Sq. Ft. more for stick built
compared to a metal pole bldg.
Lewis stated the surrounding area is compatible with
this use if the neighborhood is used for comparison.
Motion carried unanimously.
It was noted that this will be placed on the Council
Meeting of 5/26/92 at 7:30PM Agenda.
Street Lighting Policy Consideration was next on Agenda=
Kirmis explained the policy of the City currently. They
do not bill street lighting to residents now. He referred to
the 25th of March Street Lighting Policy which was taken from
Lakeville. On PG #19 the Commission needs to review and see
what is applicable to the City of Otsego. Kirmis said to
start thinking about that and we need to establish some
policies. There was some discussion as to how this could be
billed.
Roskaft stated that the City should not assume
responsibility for billing this and it should be negoitated
with the Elec. Companies and should be billed with the
regular Elec. bill.
Fournier said he gets requests from people living on
dead end streets and he thinks the City needs a policy as how
we will go about making street lights available if someone
wants them.
Rask asked why we should be responsible for providing
lighting on a cul-de-sac? People choose to live on these
because they are quiet.
A Resolution (see attached) was brought up and Kirmis
said the Commission should look it over and set policies and
standards for the City of Otsego.
Goenner said he would like to find out prices and
differences as far as billing.
Black said Elk River Utilities can probably come to a
meeting and discuss this information.
Swenson asked Beatty to contact Wright -Henn. Elec, Elk
River Utilities and NSP to come to a regular Planning
Commission Meeting Agenda item to discuss this.
Roskaft brought up the information on Ordinance setbacks
and asked for clarification.
Will and Ruth Nordin asked to have a few minutes of the
Commissions time to inform the Planning Commission of a
possible violation of the property next to them. They live
at PID 118-010-009014 and the property owned by Schmidt at
1319-5 NE 95TH ST PID #118-010-0090131. The complaint is that
they are mining gravel from that site for the Nashua Project
and have built a road over the creek to qrt into the area.
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it to the project. Nordin said they want to get rid of the
hillside. The new owner has some dump trucks there and it is
noisy in the morning said Nordin. The Nordin's have a
concern that this business will be extended. It was agreed
that this will be checked out.
Meeting adjourned at 9:OSPM.
JAME R KOLLES, SECRETARY
By: Elaine Beatty, Recording Secretary
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