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03-02-94 PCCITY OF OTSEGO PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES OF MARCH 2, 1994 AT 8PM - PAGE 1 - Meeting was called to order by Chair Carl Swenson at 8PM. The following Planning Commission Members were present: ING ROSKAFT CARL SWENSON RON BLACK/CR MARK WALLACE GENE GOENNER DENNIS MC ALPINE BRUCE RASK The following Staff was present: BOB KIRMIS ELAINE BEATTY The following Council Members were present: NORMAN F FRESKE, MAYOR LARRY FOURNIER FLOYD RODEN Agenda Item #2: Consideration of Minutes of February 16, 1994: ING ROSKAFT MOTIONED APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES WITH THE ADDITION OF HIS NAME AS BEING PRESENT ON 2/2//94 AND 2/26/94. MOTION SECONDED BY MARK WALLACE. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. Agenda Item #3: Hearing - Floyd Roden - Preliminary and final plat for O'Day Acres (Outlot A - Walesch Estates 2ND Add) PID #118-037-00010. Located at 78TH Street and Odean Avenue NE (NW corner). Elaine Beatty noted that the proper mailing, posting and publications had been made. Chair Swenson explained how a Hearing is conducted. Bob Kirmis explained NAC's Report of Feb 18, 1994. There are six conditions that should be met as part of plat approval. He read same from Page 2, #1-6 of NAC's Report of Feb 18, 1994: 1. The submitted grading plan is subject to review and approval by the City Engineer. 2. All park land dedication requirements are satisfactorily met. 3. The submitted development plan is modified to illustrate a manner in which lots may be re -subdivided in the future. 4. The developers enter into a development agreement with the City and post all the necessary securities required by it. 5. All restrictive covenants applicable to the subject subdivision are subject to review and approval by the City. Such covenants must include the following conditions: A. All houses and buildings constructed on property within the plat shall be sited consistent with future subdivision plan and shall be typical for urban development with regard to future lot lines and shall meet City and County standards for existing lot lines. B. The driveway for Lot 1 shall be located proximate to the lot's Western boundary and shall be provided a turnaround space so as to discourage the backing of vehicles onto 81ST Street. CITY OF OTSEGO PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES OF MARCH 2, 1994 AT 8PM - PAGE 2 - C. Direct driveway access to Odean Avenue shall be prohibited on Lot 8 of the plat. D. Direct driveway access to 78TH Street shall be prohibited on Lot 8 of the plat. In the event that restrictive covenants are not to be provided as part of the subject subdivision, the above conditions shall be made part of and enforced by the development agreement. 6. Any other comments by City Staff. Chair Swenson opened the Hearing to the public. He asked if anyone wished to be heard. No one did. The Hearing was closed and brought back to the Planning Commission. Dennis McAlpine: Asked if the existing property has a well. He said he had been contacted and was told there was a well and it was inoperable. Floyd Roden: Said he hadn't been able to get on the property, so he did not know, but did now. Gene Goenner: Should the buildings be removed so we don't have the problem as we did with the LeFebvre's farm? Bob Kirmis: Said we can't have a non -conforming use. Ron Black: If I am looking at the map correctly, the cul -du -sac wipes everything out except the house. Roden said, that is correct. The out buildings are all bad. Ed Demars said they haven't looked at the house. If it is salvageable, they will remodel it. Floyd Roden said someone wants to take one of the silos. Ing Roskaft: Felt this should be made part of the conditions. It should be brought up to code. Ed Demars: Said it is FHA so it will have to meet those regulations. Chair Swenson: asked if there was anything else. GENE GOENNER MOTIONED APPROVAL OF THE PRELIMINARY AND FINAL PLAT OF O'DAY ACRES UNDER THE 6 CONDITIONS LISTED ON NAC'S REPORT OF FEB 18, 1994, AND ONE TO BE ADDED #7. THE EXISTING STRUCTURE MEET ALL PROVISIONS OF THE UNIFORM BUILDING CODE. ING ROSKAFT SECONDED THE MOTION. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. This will be on the Council Agenda of 3-14-94 at 7:30PM Agenda Item #4: Review of the New Otsego Elementary School Plans and recommendation to the City Council. Bob Kirmis gave the review from NAC's Report of Feb 17, 1994. The School CITY OF OTSEGO PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES OF MARCH 2, 1994 AT 8PM - PAGE 3 - is requesting site and building plan approval of their site South of 85TH Street and West of County Rd #42. It was rezoned from A-2 to INS (Institutional). In review of the development plans, we came up with 19 conditions which we feel should be upheld as conditions of approval. He read 1-19 as follows: 1. A County Road access permit is acquired from the Wright Co Hwy Dept. 2. The site plan is modified to provide an additional handicap parking stall (5 -total). 3. All off-street parking areas are provided perimeter curbing. 4. The City Engr finds the proposed 28 ft wide curb cut width to be acceptable. 5. The proposed monument sign is shifted to lie not less than 32-1/2 ft from the Co Rd #42 right-of-way as required by the City's Sign Regulations. 6. The City reserves the right to require the construction of additional off-street parking stalls if determined necessary. 7. The site plan is modified to identify possible parking lot expansion areas. 8. No off-street parking occur within parking lot drive aisles unless such aisles are expanded to 32 ft in width. 9. All construction related signs comply with applicable provisions of the City sign regulations. 10. The City Park and Recreation Committee provide comment/recommendation on recreational field/trial issues. 11. The site plan is modified to identify trash handling areas. 12. If trash handling equipment is to be located on the exterior of the school building, such equipment be totally screening from all neighboring uses and public rights-of-way. 13. All roof top mechanical equipment is screened so as not to be visible. 14. The site plan is modified to identify exterior lighting locations. Per Ordinance requirements, all lighting uses to be arranged to deflect light away from adjoining residential uses and from public streets. 15. The site plan is subject to review by the Fire Chief to ensure that proper fire lands have been provided. 16. The site plan is modified to identify future building expansion areas. 17. The submitted grading and drainage plan is subject to review and comment by the City Engineer. 18. The City Engineer provide comment on sewage treatment related issues. 19. Comments of other City Staff. Bob Kirmis said that at the last meeting it was requested that Jeff Asfahl look at the school plans. He has and provided us a copy of his letter. Jeff Asfahl recommends that the recreational field as proposed as future long term, is developed at this time. Second is the gym be the same as the jr high. I'm not sure that is part of the Planning Commission review said Bob Kirmis. Ron Black: Said maybe it should be communicated to the school. Bob Kirmis agreed. CITY OF OTSEGO PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES OF MARCH 2, 1994 AT 8PM - PAGE 4 - Bob Kirmis asked if there was any questions. He said NAC is recommending approval of the Site Plan and Building Plans with the above conditions. Chair Swenson asked if any members had questions for Bob Kirmis. Gene Goenner: Said he had mentioned parking being a problem. Would it be in the City's best interest to require wider streets? Bob Kirmis said there is a 30' drive aisle. The Ordinance requires 24' for drive line traffic. They should expand that drive line to 32'. Gene Goenner: Said he knows what will happen. Mom's picking up kids will create a parking /traffic problem. Chair Swenson said he thinks what Gene is saying is that it will happen. Ing Roskaft: Talked about another school that could use some room. Here we only have one available street and that is Co Rd #42. These exhibits are so small you can't read the figures on them. They are almost useless. Chair Swenson: Is there a way we can have a formal recommendation we send back to them? Ing Roskaft: said he thought Jeff Asfahl is thinking of having the City put up a gym. I don't think we can afford to do that. Chair Swenson: Said what he is saying is they should build a multi-purpose gym, where adult basketball leagues can use the gym. Bob Kirmis: Asked for a clarification on the parking issue. Chair Swenson: Said 32' was your recommendation. It appears here that it would be 32' recommended. Ing Roskaft: How much footage does that give them? The driving aisle that is right in front of the school, how much footage does that give for length? You might have to have two lanes. They move in 10 or 15 cars at one time and they park all along the parking area. I am trying to see how many cars we can get in a lane. Gene Goenner: How many cars can we get in a lane? Bob Kirmis said about 20. Dennis McAlpine: St Michael High School has 24' wide - one lane that goes around. There is room in front and in back of the buses. It is very congested. Chair Swenson asked if that is feasible? Bob Kirmis said yes. Chair Swenson: CITY OF OTSEGO PLANNING COMIVIISSION MEETING MINUTES OF MARCH 3, 1994 AT 8PM - PAGE 5 - Said it sounds like that the Commission would like that recommended, the whole length of #42 in front of the school. Dennis McAlpine: questioned the curve on #42. Chair Swenson said we may be getting out of our jurisdiction. Bob Kirmis: Said in early discussions with the Architect for the school he indicated that it would be discussed with Wright Co. Chair Swenson: Said it seems that it would be the jurisdiction of Wright Co. He asked if there was anyone else wishing to speak? ING ROSKAFT MOTIONED TO RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL, APPROVAL OF THE PLANS FOR THE OTSEGO ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AN SITE PLAN AS RECOMMENDED BY THE STAFF WITH THE ADDITIONS. SECONDED BY MARK WALLACE. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. THE ADDITIONS WHICH WILL BE REQUESTED TO BE CONSIDERED ARE: a. Immediate development of the N recreational field (planned for future construction by th School District. b. Modification of the school gymnasium so as to provide amenities similar to those typically found in junior and senior high gymnasiums. This will be on the City Council Agenda of 3/14/94 at 7:30PM. Agenda Item #5. Any other Planning Business: Ron Black: Said in all likelihood you will be receiving information for establishing a Historic Commission and Ordinance for Otsego. Mark Wallace will not be at the neat Planning Commission meeting. ING ROSKAFT MOTIONED TO ADJOURN THE MEETING. BURCE RASK SECONDED THE MOTION. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. GENE OOENNER, SECRETARY Minutes by: Elaine Beatty, Recording Secretary eb