06-06-05 PCITEM 2-1
OTSEGO PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
MONDAY, JUNE 6, 2005
7 PM
OTSEGO CITY HALL
1. Vice Chair Black will call the meeting to order.
Vice Chair Black called the meeting to order at
Roll Call: Vice -Chair Pam Black; Commission Members: Tom Darkenwald, Doug
Hackman, Tammie Fallon, David Thompson and Jim Kolles.
Excused absence: Alternates: Troy Watring and John Thelen, and Chair Richard Nichols.
Staff: Mike Robertson, City Administrator; Judy Hudson, City Clerk/Zoning
Administrator and Daniel Licht, City Planner.
City Council: Mayor Larry Fournier; Councilmembers: Mark Thorsted and Vern Heidner.
2. Consider the following minutes:
2.1. May 2, 2005 Planning Commission Meeting,
Commissioner Hackman motioned to approve. Seconded by Commissioner
Thompson. All in favor. Motion carried.
3. Planning Items:
3.1. Public Hearing for Twin City BeeKeeping:
a. Conditional Use Permit (CUP) to allow candle manufacturing use.
Judy Hudson attested that all the proper noticing, publishing and posting was
completed. Dan Licht presented the Planner's Report. Steve Fischer of Arrow
Companies and applicant went over the color scheme and background of the owner.
He agreed with the conditions in the Planner's Report.
Vice Chair Black opened the Public Hearing at 7:16 PM for public comment.
Tom Brown, Terra Development, Rogers, MN, suggested that they work together
regarding architectural design to make it flow all together as they are developing the
land next to this project.
Commissioner Hackman asked what the type of use is. Kevin Youngberg, St. Michael
and owner of Twin City BeeKeeping, explained this is light manufacture only and no
reta i 1.
Hearing no further public comments Vice Chair Black closed the Public Hearing at 7:21
PM.
Commissioner Hackman motioned to recommend approving a Conditional
Use Permit and Site and Building Plans for Twin Cities Beekeeping, subject to
nine conditions listed in the Planner's Report. Seconded by Commissioner
Fallon. All in favor. Motion carried.
3.2. Public Hearing for Terra Development:
a. PUD Concept Plan for a commercial development on 90 acres.
Judy Hudson attested that all proper noticing, publishing and posting was done.
Dan Licht presented the Planner's Report.
Tom Brown, applicant, introduced Terra Development Partners Bill Christian and Dave
Taus. They have two users for the Dare property, which is not part of the PUD and will
be developed this year.
Planning Commission Meeting of June 6, 2005. Page 2.
Jeff Martin, Planner, presented the project, which is called Great River Center.
Vice Chair Black opened the Public Hearing at 7:50 PM for public comment.
Commissioner Hackman asked how this will tie in with the Waterfront East
Development. Dan Licht explained these are two competing developments and they
will be complimentary. They have different standards but are consistent with City
Ordinances.
Commissioner Darkenwald asked about Quaday Avenue as it was always shown as
going straight through and questioned if this design will be functional.
Dan Licht said that staff has discussed this alignment with the developer and this
section serves as access and will meet the City's goal for moving traffic.
Commissioner Darkenwald asked if the reduced setbacks will get the speed limits
reduced. Mr. Licht said this will be looked at when the County decides what they want
to do with the right-of-way. Mike Robertson said his discussions with the County that
studies need to be done and once they are done if it meets their guidelines, speed
limits may be lower.
Vice Chair Black questioned Lefebvre Circle. Jeff Martin explained this is a round -about
and is effective in distributing traffic and will be a focal point from 101.
Commissioner Thompson asked about the size of parking spaces. Mr. Licht said they
must meet the City Ordinance requirements.
Hearing no public comments, Vice Chair Black closed the Public Hearing at 8:03 PM.
Commissioner Darkenwald motioned to recommend approving a PUD General
Concept Plan subject to the ten conditions listed in the Planner's Report.
Seconded by Commissioner Fallon. All in favor. Motion carried.
3.3. Public Hearing for LandCor:
a. Conditional Use Permit to conduct a day care center.
b. Variance from City Code Section 4-3-9.
Judy Hudson attested that all proper noticing, posting and publishing was completed.
Judy noted she received a phone call from Dwight Nelson, adjacent landowner to the
west. He has no objections to the Daycare but was concern with the drainage which
was done years ago. He recently met with Ron Wagner, City Engineer and Mr. Nelson
feels confident the current drainage problem will be resolved when project is
completed.
Dan Licht presented the Planner's Report. John Brickley, applicant, said they are
proposing to use the 2 existing septic tanks and pump on a daily basis. They plan on
capping off the outlets to the drain field. Mr. Brickley said they would be willing to put
in a road to pump these tanks. Mike Robertson said he is concerned if sewage would
back up into the Daycare and asked how many children. Mr. Brickley said about 60
children.
Vice Chair Black opened the Public Hearing at 8:15 PM.
Chas Kolles, 90th Street, stated his concern allowing this type of use with holding tanks.
He feels a failed system is a failed system and the variance shouldn't be approved.
Commissioner Hackman stated concern with dropping off and pickup up children during
the frontage road construction. He recommends holding this off until construction is
completed.
Planning Commission Meeting of June 6, 2005. Page 3.
Councilmember Heidner said landowners discussed using each other's back accesses.
Dan Licht said this would be subject to City Engineer's approval and all the businesses
will have parking issues during frontage road construction.
Commissioner Fallon asked when the proposed opening date for the Daycare. Mr.
Brickley said August 1 with occupancy July 1 to prepare the building.
Commissioner Darkenwald stated he doesn't feel comfortable with allowing this even
with the daily pumping. Mr. Brickley said he would work with City Staff to meet their
concerns to get this Daycare up and going.
Hearing no further public comments, Vice Chair Black closed the Public Hearing at 8:29
PM.
Commissioner Kolles stated he doesn't feel this is good time and the applicant should
wait until this can get hooked up to water and sewer. He doesn't think temporary
parking at Tom Thumb will be feasible. Commissioner Fallon asked what type of
renovations to the building.
Mr. Brickley explained the front of the building will get a brick face and new carpet,
vinyl and paint inside.
Commissioner Darkenwald motioned to recommend denying the request for
an alternative septic system based on the three findings listed in the
Planner's Report. Seconded by Commissioner Kolles. All in favor. Motion
carried.
Commissioner Fallon motioned to recommend denying the application based
on a finding that the request is inconsistent with the Comprehensive Plan
and City Code based on the two findings listed in the Planner's Report.
Seconded by Commissioner Hackman. All in favor. Motion carried.
3.4. Public Hearing for LandCor:
a. PUD Development Stage Plan for Outlot L, Otsego Waterfront
East for a 23,000 square foot two story retail building_
Judy Hudson attested that all the proper publishing, noticing and posting was
completed.
Dan Licht presented the Planner's Report and recommended this application be
continued to the July 5, 2005 Planning Commission Meeting.
Vice Chair Black opened the Public Hearing at 8:40 PM.
Commissioner Darkenwald motioned to continue the Public Hearing to the
July 5, 2005 Planning Commission Meeting. Seconded by Commissioner
Thompson. All in favor. Motion carried.
3.5. Public Hearing:
a. Amend the Wild and Scenic District Boundary in accordance
with the legislation signed in April 2005.
Judy attested that the proper publishing and posting was completed.
Vice Chair Black opened the Public Hearing at 8:42 PM.
Dan Licht presented the Planner's Report.
Hearing no public comments Vice Chair Black closed the Public Hearing at 8:44 PM.
Commissioner Thompson motioned to recommend approving an ordinance
amending the boundaries of the Wild Scenic Recreational River District.
Seconded by Commissioner Hackman. All in favor. Motion carried.
Planning Commission Meeting of June 6, 2005. Page 4.
3.6. Public Hearing:
a. Amend the Zoning Ordinance for setbacks from Arterial and
Collector Streets for Commercial and Industrial Zoning Districts.
Judy Hudson attested that the proper publishing and posting was completed.
Dan Licht presented the Planner's Report.
Vice Chair Black opened the Public Hearing at 8:48 PM for public comment
Hearing no public comments Vice Chair Black closed the Public Hearing at 8:50 PM.
Commissioner Fallon motioned to recommend approving an ordinance
amending the Zoning Ordinance of the City of Otsego modifying the front
yard setback requirements for commercial, industrial and Institutional
Zoning Districts as directed by the Comprehensive Plan. Seconded by
Commissioner Thompson. All in favor. Motion carried.
4. Anv other Plannina Commission Business.
4.1. Update on Council Actions by CM Heidner.
Councilmember Heidner updated the Planning Commission Members on recent City
Council actions.
4.2. Update on future Plannina Commission Agenda Items by Judv Hudson.
Judy noted there is no Planning Commission Meeting for June 20, 2005.
5. Adjournment.
Commissioner Fallon motioned to adjourn. Seconded by Commissioner
Hackman. All in favor. Motion carried.
Meeting adjourned at 8:55 PM.
Pam Black, Vice Chair
ATTEST:
Judy Hudson, City Clerk/Zoning Adm.