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09-04-07 PCITEM 2_1 OTSEGO PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OTSEGO CITY HALL Tuesday, September 4, 2007 7 PM 1. Chair Nichols will call the meeting to order. Chair Nichols called the meeting to order at 7:03 PM. Roll Call: Chair Richard Nichols; Commission Members: Pam Black, Tammie Fallon, David Thompson, John Thelen and Brian Gerten. Excused absence: Troy Watring & Doug Hackman. Absent: Jim Kolles. Councilmember: Vern Heidner. 2. Consider the following minutes. 2.1. July 16, 2007 Planning Commission Meeting. Commissioner Thelen motioned to approve the minutes as written. Seconded by Commissioner Black. All in favor. Motion carried. 3. Planning Items: PUBLIC HEARINGS: 3.1. Shamrock Development: A. Rezoning from A-1 District to I-2 District. B. Preliminary and Final Plat for Dara Glen Addition. Dan Licht presented the Planner's Report. Jim Stanton, Shamrock, stated he agrees with the conditions in the Planner's Report except for the 100 foot right of way for street as this seems excessive for a collector street and the adjoining street in Kittredge Crossing is 80 feet of right of way. Dan Licht said staff can work with the developer on this prior to the City Council Meeting. Chair Nichols asked in reference to the 100 foot right of way. Dan Licht said in Kittredge Crossing it is 80 feet but Engineer is updating to 100 foot right of way. Chair Nichols opened the Public Hearing at 7:17 PM. Judy Hudson, City Clerk/Zoning Administrator, attested that all proper noticing, posting and publishing was completed. Rich Baron, Alliance Auction and Realty, was hired by the Bistodeau's to sell their property. He asked if this is rezoned this to I-2 will it modify or change the Comp. Plan and affect the Bistodeau property. Dan Licht said the Bistodeau property would not be affected by this and Comp Plan would not change because of this application. Commissioner Thelen asked what is a typical I2 user. Dan Licht replied, warehousing, limited outdoor storage, some office warehouse use. Chair Nichols hearing no other public comments, closed the Public Hearing at 7:21 PM. Commissioner Thompson asked how much is going into the baseball field. Dan Licht said most of the western half of the property. Commissioner Gerten asked would we still collect the cash for Park. Dan Licht said they are giving recreation purpose land in lieu of cash. Planning Commission Meeting of September 4, 2007. Page 2. Commissioner Black motioned to approve a Zoning Map amendment rezoning the subject site from A-1 District to I-2 District based on a finding that the action is consistent with the Comprehensive Plan. Seconded by Commissioner Thompson. All in favor. Motion carried. Commissioner Black motioned to approve a Preliminary and Final Plat for the Dara Glen Addition, subject to the eleven conditions listed in the Planner's Report dated August 28, 2007. Seconded by Commissioner Thompson. All in favor. Motion carried. 3.2. Kaleidoscope Charter School: A. Rezoning from I-2 District to INS District. B. PUD-CUP/Development Stage Plan for an approximately 40,500 square foot building to be used as a charter school. Dan Licht presented the Planner's Report. Debra Rathman, architect, described the materials for the building: they want a look that is consistent for transition between the residential area and industrial area and explained what materials they want to use. She also discussed the setbacks. Judy Hudson, City Clerk/Zoning Administrator, attested that all the proper noticing, posting and publishing was completed. Chair Nichols opened the Public Hearing Bob Hamann, 7467 Kahler Court, likes the idea of the school and what you're using the land for. His concern is traffic. Are there plans for a stop light at the intersection of 70th and Cty Rd 19. City Administrator Mike Robertson said that in the long term a traffic signal will be there. He explained how Otsego and Albertville will be going ahead with the construction of 70th street east of Cty Rd 19. Commissioner Black stated her concern with circulation within the school site, parents backing into bus traffic and going in the bus path. Ms. Rathman said she has given a lot of thought to this and the intent is that it will be a dedicated bus lane and they will restrict parents from driving in this lane. Commissioner Fallon asked about access to the playground. Ms. Rathman explained the main circulation will be from the front entrance or thru the gym. Commissioner Fallon asked if there is any barrier between school and parent drop off. Ms. Rathman said that they are still trying to work some of those things out. Commissioner Thelen said if the restrooms will be multiple uses in each wing. Ms. Rathman said that there will be 2 sets of dedicated boys and girls bathrooms on each wing and a larger bank by the cafeteria and gym which exceed required amount. Commissioner Thelen asked why no shower and locker rooms. Ms. Rathman said that is a thing of the past. Commissioner Gerten noted the parking lot is subject to review, you said there would be a fair amount of parent drop off and he would like a fair amount of land for this use and make sure it is a safe flow plan. Ms. Rathman said that they have a significant amount of parking that can be used. CM Heidner asked for number of students. Ms. Rathman replied 432 K-8 students. CM Heidner said that any activities where parents are involved then you could have 400 cars. Ms. Rathman said there are no parking requirements for Planning Commission Meeting of September 4, 2007. Page 3. that one to one ratio. Dan Licht said that we don't apply those standards to this usage because it is limited. Chair Nichols asked how does this compare to other schools. Ms. Rathman replied that this would be considered a small school. CM Heidner said that Otsego Elementary is about 800 students. Dan Licht said that Otsego Elementary is about 40 to 60 acres. Chair Nichols asked how you can get 432 students on 10 acres and other schools need 40 to 60 acres. Ms. Rathman said that they are probably accommodating other uses. Commissioner Black said back to parent parking, would the angle parking be for parents to pull in and take children into school? Ms. Rathman said yes. Commissioner Black asked where additional parent parking would be. Ms. Rathman said the auxiliary parking on the northwest area. Average amount of drop off time would take 5 to 7 minutes. Commissioner Black said she sees parents pulling up to curb, dropping off students and continuing on. Ms. Rathman said the buses would be arriving at different times and using the same area for both drop off and pick up. Dan Licht said that they could add another condition that staff will review the parking from the concerns heard from the Planning Commission. Commissioner Fallon said she sees two main areas that have doors away from the student's discovery commons area. Ms. Rathman said that it allows them their own access to the outside. Hearing no other public comments, Chair Nichols closed the Public Hearing at 8 PM. Commissioner Black motioned to approve a Zoning Map amendment rezoning the proposed charter school site from I-2 District to INS District based on a finding that the action is consistent with the Comprehensive Plan. Seconded by Commissioner Fallon. All in favor. Motion carried. Commissioner Black motioned to approve a PUD -CUP for Kaleidoscope Charter School, subject to the nine conditions listed in the Planner's Report dated August 29, 2007 adding another condition addressing the drop off and pick up parent parking. Seconded by Commissioner Thompson. All in favor. Motion carried. 4. Any other Planning Commission Business. 4.1. Update on City Council actions by Councilmember Heidner. Councilmember Heidner updated the Planning Commission on Council actions done since their last meeting. 4.2. Update on future Planning Commission Agenda Items bar Judy Hudson. There will be no Planning Commission on September 17 due to lack of agenda items. 5. Adjournment by 10 PM. Commissioner Thompson motioned to adjourn. Seconded by Commissioner Fallon. All in favor. Motion carried. Planning Commission Meeting of September 4, 2007. Page 4. Meeting adjourned at 8:24 PM. Chair Richard Nichols Attest: Judy Hudson, Clerk/Zoning Admin. Written by: Tami Loff