04-07-08 PCOTSEGO PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
OTSEGO CITY HALL
APRIL 7, 2008
7 PM
1. Chair Black will call the meeting to order.
Chair Black called the meeting to order at 7:01 PM.
Roll Call: Chair Pam Black; Commission Members: David Thompson, Tammie
Fallon, Doug Hackman, Richard Nichols and Jim Kolles. Commissioner John Thelen
arrived at 7:15 PM.
Staff: Judy Hudson, City Clerk/Zoning Administrator; Dan Licht, City Planner.
Council: Mayor Larry Fournier; Councilmembers: Vern Heidner and Mark Thorsted
2. Consider the following minutes.
2.1. March 17 2008 Planning Commission Meeting.
Commissioner Hackman motioned to approve the minutes as written.
Seconded by Commissioner Kolles. All in favor. Motion carried.
3. Planning Items:
PUBLIC HEARINGS:
3.1. Island View Bluff- Rescheduled to May 5, 2008.
A. Conditional Use Permit (CUP) for development of three single
family homes on substandard lots of record within the Wild and Scenic
(WS) District.
B. PreliminaryFinal Plat.
3.2. Crimson Ponds North -Application Withdrawn.
A. Zoning Map Amendment.
B. Preliminary Plat for 72 single family lots.
3.3. Klein Bank Site and Building Plan Review.
This was not a Public Hearing. Dan Licht presented the Planner's Report.
Ed Muehberg, HTG Architects, said he will adjust the plans according to the conditions.
Commissioner Fallon motioned to approve the submitted site and building
plans for Klein Bank subject to the ten conditions listed in the Planner's
Report. Seconded by Commissioner Hackman. All in favor. Motion carried.
3.4. Cronies:
A. Zoning Map amendment from A-1 District to B-3 District.
B. Preliminary/Final Plat.
C. Site and Building Plan review.
Commissioner John Thelen was seated at this time. Dan Licht presented the Planner's
Report. The applicant had no comment. Commissioner Fallon asked about the awning
materials. Applicant Phil Rondeau said the awnings were changed to cloth.
Commissioner Fallon asked about the EFIS material. Mr. Licht said this was raised at the
last meeting and they had applicant look into a different type of material. Commissioner
Thelen thought the front looks great especially with landscaping. Commission Hackman
agreed. Chair Black asked about the horizontal strip. Mr. Rondeau said this is an
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expanded band of EFIS adding relief to front of building and also sticking out of
building. Commissioner Nichols agreed with Commissioner Thelen that the building
looks fine with adding additional windows. Chair Black suggested changing the color on
the vertical strip at corner of entrance. Mr. Rondeau said he could do that.
Commissioner Fallon thought that the 3 different colors on top were enough. Chair
Black asked if they want Condition 10 regarding design in there. Commissioner Fallon
said based on the colors Mr. Rondeau described the building should be fine.
Commissioner Kolles likes what is presented. Commissioner Thompson would like
Condition 10 left in. Commissioner Nichols would like No. 10 left in. Commissioner
Hackman said he would like to remove No. 10, he feels we are adding too many things
to the building. Mr. Rondeau said that this doesn't show how the wood entrance comes
out and adds a lot to this front area. Commissioner Thelen said take out Condition 10
and he likes what is presented. Chair Black said to leave in.
Commissioner Hackman motioned to recommend approving a Zoning Map
amendment rezoning the subject site from A-1 District to B-3 District based
on a finding that the request is consistent with the Comprehensive Plan.
Seconded by Commissioner Thompson. All in favor. Motion carried.
Commissioner Thelen motioned to recommend to approve a Preliminary and
Final Plat for Lot 1, Block 1 Cronies Addition based on a finding that the
request is consistent with the Comprehensive Plan, Zoning Ordinance and
Subdivision Ordinance, subject to the thirteen conditions (deleting Condition
No. 10) listed in the Planning Report. Seconded by Commissioner Fallon. All
in favor. Motion carried.
3.5. Revised Concept Plan for Remington Coves 2nd Addition.
Dan Licht presented the Planner's Report.
Applicant Bruce Bonebright, Cottage Builders, talked about the mechanical room in a
small basement which would also serve as a storm shelter. Commissioner Hackman
remarked on the entire pavement surface coming into the development seeing this as
hindrance. Commissioner Thompson said this is more like an alley to the back of the
homes as the houses face out over the sidewalks. Chair Black asked about the shared
driveways. Dan Licht said they both have sufficient space not to interfere with each
other. Commissioner Fallon noted the small island should be looked at. Commissioner
Thelen would like to see one less building. Mr. Bonebright said they are trying to
accommodate the current light poles, utility lines and stubs while trying to make the
best of a bad situation. He feels this is less cluttered than the previously approved 19
bay homes. He said they are about 50 feet from each other. Commissioner Thelen
would like to see one less unit. Council member Heidner would like to see more guest
parking. Other concerns were with the issues of spacing, parking and crowding. Mayor
Fournier suggested eliminating the green area in the cul-de-sac for more parking.
Commissioner Fallon doesn't like all the angles of driveways but likes the one level
home. Commissioner Thelen likes the mechanical room in a basement. Commissioner
Thompson said it is crowded but less crowded than the bay home design.
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4. Any other Planning Commission Business.
4.1. Update on City Council actions by Councilmember Heidner.
Councilmember Heidner updated everyone on recent Council actions and discussions.
4.2. Update on future Planning Commission Agenda Items by
Judy Hudson.
Judy reminded everyone that the April 21St Planning Commission Meeting has been
cancelled.
5. Adjournment by 10 PM.
Commissioner Hackman motioned to adjourn. Seconded by Commissioner
Fallon. All in favor. Motion carried. Adjourned at 9:01 PM.
Pam Black, Chair
Attest:
Judy Hudson, City Clerk/Zoning Admin.
Recorded by: Tami Loff, Deputy Clerk