08-07-00 PCCITY OF OTSEGO PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
MONDAY, AUGUST 7, 2000 - 8PM
MINUTES
1. Chair Swenson will call the Planning Commission Meeting to order.
Chair Swenson called the Planning Commission Meeting to order at 8PM.
ROLL CALL
Planning Commission:
Chair Carl Swenson, Arleen Nagel, Jim Kolles, Patrick Moonen, Steve Schuck, Ken Fry
and Eugene Goenner. Absent: Christian M'Banefo.
Staff:
Elaine Beatty, City Clerk/Zoning Administrator and Dan Licht, City Planner
City Council:
Mayor Larry Fournier, CM Vern Heidner, CM Virginia Wendel, CM Suzanne Ackerman
and CM Richard Nichols
2. Consideration of the Planning Commission Minutes of:
A. Monday, July 3, 2000 - 8PM
STEVE SCHUCK MOTIONED TO ACCEPT THE PLANNING COMMISSION
MINUTES OF MONDAY, JUNE 19, 2000 AS WRITTEN. ARLEEN NAGEL
SECONDED THE MOTION. MOTION CARRIED WITH CHAIR CARL
SWENSON ABSTAINING BECAUSE HE WAS ABSENT.
3 HEARING For Owner/Applicant Arl�m & Judith Bajari 7121 Kadler Avenue
N.E. (Otsego) Monticello, Mn. 55362 and Applicant Bauerly Brothers, Inc., 4787
Shadowwood Drive NE, Sauk Rapids, Minnesota. 56379, PID #'s Involved are
PID #118-800-273401 (41.17 Approx. Acres) and #118-800-274400 (27.34 Approx.
Acres) all in Section 27, Township 121, Range 24, Wright County, City of Otsego, Mn.
Legal description is on file at the City Clerk's Office, City of Otsego. This property is
located W. of Kadler Avenue N.E. and North of 70TH ST N.E. and N. of I-94. Request
is as follows:
A. Rezone from A-1 (General Agricultural, Rural Service Area)
to I-2 (General Industrial District) the entire 41.17 and 27.34
approximate acres.
B. Preliminary Plat of "Bauerly Companies Industrial Park"
Chair Swenson gave an explanation of the application. Elaine Beatty noted that the
proper publishing, mailings and postings were completed. Dan Licht reviewed the
Planning Report dated August 1, 2000. He noted that the rezoning is the City Officials
decision.
Chair Swenson reviewed the formal hearing procedure from the back of the P.C.
Agenda and OPENED THE PUBLIC HEARING. No one spoke.
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Discussion back to the P.C.
Ken Fry - Questioned the road and do they have to install it? Dan Licht explained that
because of the uncertainty of how this property will develop, the recommendation by Staff
is not to install the road until a later date.
Discussion back to the public. No one spoke
Chair Swenson CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING.
MOTION BY JIM KOLLES TO RECOMMEND TO THE COUNCIL
REZONING FROM A-1 (GENERAL AGRICULTURAL) TO I-2 (GENERAL
INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT THE 41.71 AND THE 27.34 ACRE PARCELS.
ARLEEN NAGEL SECONDED THE MOTION. MOTION CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY.
KEN FRY MOTIONED TO RECOMMEND TO THE COUNCIL ACCEPTANCE
OF THE PRELIMINARY PLAT OF BAUERLY COMPANIES INDUSTRIAL
PARK, SUBJECT TO THE 8 CONDITIONS OF THE PLANNING REPORT
DATED AUGUST 1, 2000. STEVE SCHUCK SECONDED THE MOTION.
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Elaine Beatty noted that this item will be on the August 14, 2000 - 6:30PM Council
Meeting.
Discussion:
Gene Goenner - Number 4 of the Planning Report regarding stonnwater drainage
being adequately paid for, I assume this is provided for in that condition? Answer: Yes
4. Any other P.C. Business
A. Continue Discussion Re: Building Materials
Dan Licht explained his Report of August 1, 2000. He noted that a Planning
Commission Hearing is required to make any changes official.
Mr. Schuck - He looked at Grade A & B materials. Why not make them both
Grade "A" and Grade C & D make them Grade "B" to make it simpler? Mr. Licht said he
separated the concrete because of it being industrial type material and he would keep the
wood separated also.
Mr. Goenner - The material the Church is installing will fall under Grade"C" with
35% of the material allowed on a new building. He feels this is too restrictive.
Mr. Fry - Didn't think any of it was etched in stone. Mr. Licht said flexibility is
allowed by a CUP under the previous ordinance.
Mr. Goenner - Did not see a reason for a CUP when it is quality material. Mr.
Kolles agreed. CM Heidner - Said it is steel with paint and compared it to auto material
and to keep in mind what it will look like in 20 years, the weathering of wood, steel,
aluminum or whatever. Chair Swenson had the same concerns and CM Heidner and asked
what would happen if this was hit by hale?
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Ms. Nagel - Asked if stucco should be in the same category as it also is damaged by
hale and has discoloration.
Dan Licht - We were trying to address comments during the hearing and Council
Meeting. Maybe the lower percentage in the ordinance allows opportunity to use more of
other material. It can be 100% brick. Mr. Goenner - Felt lowering the percentage does not
solve the problem. Chair Swenson - Disagreed with Mr. Goenner. The other material if
used for accent, when it needs repairs, it is not as expensive to repair a smaller amount.
Dan Licht - Noted that the requirement encourages aesthetics and encourages
quality. Along with the highest quality materials comes increased tax base.
Chair Swenson asked for a show of hands from P.C. if in favor of the proposed
changes to the ordinance as presented by Dan Licht. Vote; 1 -yes, 6 -no.
Chair Swenson asked the P.C. if they want to rearrange the categories or leave it as
is?
Ms. Nagel - Likes breaking it down to four different grades and limiting wood.
The majority of the P.C. agreed.
Mr. Kolles questioned CM Heidner if the Council had any direction regarding the
church? CM Heidner felt what they were installing was better than what they already had
installed. Mr. Kolles felt they shouldn't be talking specifically about one group, but about
all of the City.
CM Nichols - Felt it should be brick, block or stone. Why should our standards be
lower? We are not a Township anymore, we are a City. If we lose a few businesses, fine.
Hwy #101 and the golden triangle should be higher standards in his view.
Mr. Schuck - Agreed with CM Nichols. Maybe 75% to 80% of Grade A materials
with the rest being strictly architectural accent and trim. Mr. Fry felt anyone coming into
those areas would spend the money for a relatively nice building and agreed with CM
Nichols. Chair Swenson - If we pursue this, go with a smaller % and use as an
architectural accent.
Mr. Moonen - Said the building where he works is 5 -years old and precast concrete
and already painted twice. There is still maintenance involved and has no problem with
steel siding. Brick is nice.
Mr. Schuck - If we set the % higher, we have a CUP to allow it to be lower.
Mr. Moonen - Said the % should be high - 65%.
Mr. Goenner - Precast sidewalls, some stucco, some not, is considered for that
area. Would this discourage large stores from building? Dan Licht - We can work with
the corporate look, evaluate and work with them. CM Heidner noted that Walmart in Elk
River has more brick than the standard design. Chair Swenson - The CUP gives us
flexibility.
Ms. Nagel - INS/BUS areas, any way of defining the area of higher quality?
Dan Licht - Explained #39 & #42 is the prime commercial area and #42 secondary
Commercial Area, #37 & #101 is smaller retail area (neighborhood commercial). The
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ordinance is written to apply to all zoning districts. #42 & #101 area should be 100%
Otsego Commercial core and legally defined as an overlay zoning district. The rest is
general zoning district. Mr. Goenner - Felt that any commercial or industrial district should
be the same standards all along #101.
Dan Licht will put the draft in ordinance form and bring it back to discuss and set
public hearing.
B. CM Heidner -Update
Informed the P.C. the budget is being considered and let the Council know if they
have any requests. He explained River Ranch development with sewer and water was
approved in the slabtown area. The Tom Koelwitz Plat they are still working on details.
Explained the 101 Market off-site sign issue, and explained Preliminary Plat legalities.
6. Adjourn by 10PM
STEVE SCHUCK MOTIONED TO ADJOURN THE MEETING. KEN FRY
SECONDED THE MOTION. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
MEETING ADJOURNED AT 9PM.
ARL N NAGEL, SECkETUY
MINUTES BY: Elaine Beatty, City Clerk/Zoning Administrator, Recording
Secretary
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