09-02-03 PCCITY OF OTSEGO
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
SEPTEMBER 2, 2003
8 P
OTSEGO CITY HALL
1_ Chair Nichols will call the meeting to order.
Chair Nichols called the meeting to order at 8 PM.
Roll Call: Chair Richard Nichols; Commission Members: Pam Black, Steve
Schuck, Carl Swenson, Ken Fry, David Thompson.
Alternates: Doug Hackman, Tammie Fallon.
Staff: Mike Robertson, City Administrator; Judy Hudson, City Clerk; Dan Licht, City
Planner
City Council: Mayor Larry Fournier; Councilmembers: Vern Heidner and Jerry Struthers
2. Consider the following minutes:
2.1. August 4, 2003 Planning Commission Meeting_
Commissioner Black motioned approval. Seconded by Commissioner Fry. All in
favor. Motion carried.
3. Planning Items:
PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE FOLLOWING:
3.1. Scott and Shelley Meneley
A. Conditional Use Permit to allow relocation of an Accesso
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Building.
Dan Licht presented the Planner's Report. Judy Hudson attested the property noticing
and publishing was done.
Applicant, Scott Meneley, stated that he has started to remove some of the buildings and
is starting to clean up his property.
Chair Nichols opened the Public Hearing at 8:08 PM.
There were no public comments.
Commissioner Schuck asked if there were any issues with any other conditions. Mr.
Meneley said there were none.
Hearing no public comments Chair Nichols closed the Public Hearing at 8:09 PM.
Commissioner Schuck motioned to recommend approving the Conditional Use
Permit for the proposed relocation of an existing pole building to 9115 Nashua
Avenue subject to the 8 conditions listed in the Planner's Report. Seconded by
Commissioner Swenson. All in favor. Motion carried.
3.2. Carl and Joy Swenson:
A. Amendment to the PUD/CUP to make existing barns conforming
structures and allow for renovation under R -C District.
Commissioner Swenson requested to be excused from this Public Hearing, as this is his
property and application. Dan Licht presented the Planner's Report.
The applicant, Carl Swenson, stated he agrees with all the conditions in the Planner's
Report.
Planning Commission Meeting of September 2, 2003. Page 2.
Judy Hudson attested all noticing and publishing was done. She also stated she received
a phone call from Linda Magnuson, who lives near this property and stated she has no
objections to this proposal.
Chair Nichols opened the Public Hearing at 8:18 PM.
Tom Wacker, 9852 James Avenue, said his two concerns would be changing the
architectural look and if any building would be used for a business, otherwise he supports
this project.
Matt Rohrer, 10054 Jandel Avenue, asked if the shaded barn on the sketch plan represents
the large white one barn and he also asked if the barns would be used for businesses. He
supports the project, as he doesn't want to see the large barn removed.
Carl Swenson said it is not the large barn.
Dan Licht explained that there won't be any business located in the barns and that the
Conditional Use Permit runs with the property.
Hearing no other public comments, Chair Nichols closed the Public Hearing at 8:23 PM.
Commissioner Fry motioned to recommend to approve a PUD -CUP amendment to
allow for four detached accessory structures with a floor area not to exceed 9,500
square feet for Lot 4, Block 1 of Mississippi Pines based on a finding that
preservation of the existing barns is consistent with the intent of the Comprehensive
Plan and R -C District, subject to the 3 conditions listed in the Planner's Report.
Seconded by Commissioner Schuck. All in favor. Motion carried.
3.3. Patrick and Carolyn Jansen:
A. Conditional Use Permit to allow relocation of a Home.
Commissioner Swenson rejoined the Planning Commission.
Dan Licht presented the Planner's Report. Judy Hudson attested all noticing and
publishing was done.
The applicant, Pat Jansen, stated they agree with all the conditions.
Chair Nichols opened the Public Hearing at 8:29 PM.
There were no public comments.
Commissioner Black asked if all the neighboring homes all have a 35 foot setback.
Dan Licht didn't know but all new homes must comply with current requirements.
Hearing no public comments Chair Nichols closed the Public Hearing at 8:30 PM.
Commissioner Black motioned to recommend to approve the CUP to allow
relocation of an existing single family dwelling to Lot 9, Block 1, Vasseur's Oak
Grove Estates 2nd Addition is consistent with the requirements for building
relocations as outlined within the Zoning Ordinance subject to the 8 conditions
listed in the Planner's Report. Seconded by Commissioner Fry. All in favor.
Motion carried.
3.4. Wayne and Diane Tor erg son:
A. Conditional Use Permit to allow relocation of a Home.
Dan Licht presented the Planner's Report.
Diane Torgerson, applicant, stated that the attached structure to the back of garage will
not be coming to their property and she agrees with all of the conditions.
Judy Hudson attested all proper noticing and publishing was done.
Planning Commission Meeting of September 2, 2003. Page 3.
Chair Nichols opened the Public Hearing at 8:37 PM.
There were no public comments and Chair Nichols closed the Public Hearing at 8:40 PM.
Commissioner Schuck motioned to recommend to approve the CUP for a relocation
of an existing single family dwelling to Lot 16, Block 2, Vasseur's Oak Grove Estates
3rd Addition is consistent with the requirements for building relocations as outlined
within the Zoning Ordinance subject to the 8 conditions listed in the Planner's
Report. Seconded by Commissioner Swenson. All in favor. Motion carried.
3.5. Otsego West LLC:
A. Rezone from Agricultural to R-4 Residential.
B. Preliminary Plat to develop 144 Single Family Lots.
Dan Licht presented the Planner's Report.
Scott Dahlke, Project Engineer, asked the reason for removal of the one lot. Dan Licht
explained the issue is that there would be 2 corner lots and there would be two butt lots.
Scott Dahlke asked if the City could require that Lots 1, 2 and 3 of Block 9 be required to
be orientated to face Avenue A and therefore keep all the lots. He stated he agrees with
all of the other conditions.
Judy Hudson attested all proper noticing and publishing was done.
Chair Nichols opened the Public Hearing at 8:53 PM.
Brad Hackenmueller 67`h Street, stated his only concern was the mailing, which did not
include the details of this report, and his home will have 10 homes facing it.
Commissioner Schuck asked if the access on east should be relocated. Dan Licht replied
it will be.
City Administrator Mike Robertson said that stormwater ponds when located in the back
yards can create problems, and that he likes stormwater ponds on outlots. Mr. Licht
replied the Ordinance leaves it open to either option.
John Kolles, 7009 McAllister Avenue, was concerned with the stormwater, that if it goes
southeast it goes to the Praught land and then back into the Otsego Creek. He also asked
about sewer going along 67`h Street.
Hearing no further public comments Chair Nichols closed the Public Hearing at 9:08 PM.
Commissioner Hackman asked about paving 67`'' Street. Dan Licht said there is no
timeline and it will be gravel until the Kolles property is developed.
Commissioner Schuck motioned to recommend to approve a Zoning Map
amendment rezoning the subject site from A-1 District to R-4 District based upon a
finding that the request is consistent with the Comprehensive Plan. Seconded by
Commissioner Fry. All in favor. Motion carried.
Commissioner Schuck motioned to recommend to approve the Otsego West
Preliminary Plat, subject to the 9 conditions listed in the Planner's Report adding
Condition 10 that Lots 1, 2, 3 of Block 9 must orientated to face the street or remove
the center lot. Seconded by Commissioner Black. All in favor. Motion
Carried.
Planning Commission Meeting of September 2, 2003. Page 4.
4. Any other Planning Commission Business.
A. Update on Council actions by CM Heidner.
CM Heidner updated the Commissioners on recent Council actions.
5. Adjournment by 10 PM.
Commissioner Fry motioned to adjourn. Seconded by Commissioner Schuck. All in
favor. Motion carried.
Meeting adjourned at 9:28 PM.
Richard Nichols, Chair
ATTEST:
Judy Hudson, Zoning Adm/Clerk