07-05-04 PCITEM 2_1
OTSEGO PLANNING COMMISSION
JULY 5, 2004
7 P
OTSEGO CITY HALL
1. Chair Nichols will call the meeting to order.
Chair Nichols called the meeting to order at 7:00 pm.
Roll Call: Richard Nichols, Chair; Planning Commission Members: Tammie
Fallon, David Thompson, Doug Hackman, and Tom Darkenwald.
Excused Absence: Pam Black and Steve Schuck.
Unexcused Absence: Jim Kolles.
Staff: Mike Robertson, City Administrator; Karee Rowell, Deputy Clerk; and
Bob Kirmis, Assistant City Planner.
Council: Mayor Larry Fournier, Vern Heidner and Jerry Struthers.
Councilmen Heidner talked about the passing of Commissioner Carl Swenson and
Commissioner Ken Fry moving out of Otsego; the City Council appointed Doug
Hackman and Tammie Fallon to fill the vacated places. The Council also
appointed Tom Darkenwald as 1 st Alternate and Troy Watring as 2nd Alternate.
2. Consider the following minutes:
2.1. The June 7, 2004 Planning Commission Meeting.
Commissioner Thompson motioned to approve the Planning Commission
meeting minutes of May 17, 2004. Seconded by Commissioner Darkenwald.
All in favor. Motion carried.
2.2. The June 21, 2004 Tour.
Commissioner Hackman motioned to approve the Planning Commission
meeting minutes of June 21, 2004. Seconded by Commissioner Darkenwald.
All in favor. Motion carried.
3. PlanningItems:
ems:
PUBLIC HEARINGS:
3.1. Hempel Properties:
A. PUD Development Stage Plan and Final Plat for Outlot A,
Waterfront West 2nd Addition, to develop a
10,898 square foot retail building.
Mr. Kirmis presented the Planner's Report.
Jeff Wrede, Tushie Montgomery Architects, brought in the revised plan with
changes of the facade. Mr. Wrede pointed out the West side of the building
will have the gas meters and the dumpsters, so they do not want to put a window
there as per Dan Licht's request and they will put brick on the wall.
Planning Commission Meeting of July 5, 2004. Page 2
Chair Nichols reopened the hearing at 7:08 pm.
Commissioner Hackman questioned will the landscaping screen the dumpster.
Mr. Wrede said they will.
Chair Nichols questioned the elevation about the approximate roof line. Mr.
Wrede said the elevation varies from 18 - 24 feet. There were no public
comments, Chair Nichols closed the hearing at 7:17 pm.
Jon Hempel, Hempel Properties, stated there will be 201 parking spaces and he
was fine with the rest of the conditions of approval. Chair Nichols was wondering
about the brick on the dumpster site and Mr. Wrede said it was an over sight and
will be taken care of. Mr. Heidner asked about a bike path if it is going to
continue and Mr. Wrede stated there is a sidewalk there.
Commissioner Hackman motioned to approve of the PUD Development Stage
Plan and Final Plat for Otsego Waterfront Retail subject to the 10 conditions
with the exceptions I.A. to omit windows and 5.201 parking spaces instead of
211 parking spaces. Seconded by Commissioner Fallon. All in favor.
Motioned carried.
3.2. Farr Development:
A. PUD Development Stage Plans and Final Plats for
Kittredge Crossings 5t' and 6`h Additions.
Bob Kirmis presented his Planner's report. Lucinda Gardner of Farr
Development said they are fine with the conditions. Ms. Gardner passed around
the color schemes for the 5th Addition.
Chair Nichols reopened the hearing at 7:34 pm. There was no public comment.
Chair Nichols closed the hearing at 7:34 pm.
Mr. Robertson suggested the condition read "a minimum of 4 colors" so there
could be more if they developer desired it. Commissioner Hackman
questioned the landscape plans with the high points for trees and pond. Ms.
Gardner stated that is a requirement in item 4 and it will provide some
screening in the backyards.
Commissioner Thompson motioned to approve a PUD Development Stage
Plan for the Kittredge Crossings 5th Addition subject to the 8 conditions with
amending item 2. to state a minimum of four color schemes. Seconded by
Commissioner Fallon. All in favor. Motion carried.
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Commissioner Fallon motioned to approve a PUD Development Stage Plan
and Final Plat for the Kittredge Crossings 6th Addition subject to the 8
conditions with amending item 2. to state a minimum of four schemes.
Seconded by Commissioner Thompson. All in favor. Motioned carried.
3.3. Quaday Addition:
A. Preliminary Plat for a PUD General Development
Plan/CUP Conditional Use Permit to allow a shared
Driveway and lots without direct access to a Public
Street.
Commissioner Darkenwald stepped down from the platform due to a conflict of
interest.
Chair Nichols motioned to have this continued until the August 2, 2004
Planning Commission Meeting per the applicant's request. Seconded by
Commissioner Thompson. All in favor. Motioned carried.
Commissioner Darkenwald returned to the planning commission meeting.
3.4. Midwest Landscapes:
A. Consideration of amending the Section 20-37-5.5a of the
Zoning Ordinance regarding signs.
Bob Kirmis presented his Planner's Report.
Chair Nichols opened the Public Hearing at 7:45 pm.
Ellen Miller, 6464 Oakland Avenue NE, questioned the AG zoning and does a
landscaping operation business fit the zoning. Mr. Kirmis and Mr. Robertson
both agreed that is allowed in an AG Zone. Ms. Miller asked if they had a storm
water plan. Mr. Robertson said they did and he would have city engineer review
it at the Council meeting.
Jim Barthel, 6360 Oakwood Avenue NE, asked where the sign is going to be and
also expressed concern about the stormwater. Commissioner Thompson asked
about the sign being 8 feet, the height looks taller now.
Adam Zopfi, Midwest Landscape, answered the sign at this time is 12 feet, but the
poles will go down to meet the requirements and plan is to put keystone around it
and landscape it. Commissioner Hackman was concerned regarding the location.
Mr. Zopfi answered it is the south side of the driveway away from the road in the
ditch. Mr. Heidner how long has the sign been there. Mr. Zopfi said in1997 the
sign was put up when the storm took down the old sign. Chair Nichols asked
about 3.c. tacking on advertising which isn't that what the sign is for? Mr.
Kirmis said the wording needs some fine turning.
There was no further public comment and Chair Nichols closed the public hearing
at 7:57 pm.
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Chair Nichols motioned to approve a Zoning Ordinance amendment to
provide for limited business identification signage within agriculture districts
as consistent with the Comprehensive Plan and the allowance of these types
of uses in these zoning districts to be reworded. Seconded by Commissioner
Darkenwald. All in favor. Motioned carried.
4. Any other Planning Commission Business.
4.1. Update on Council actions by CM Heidner.
Councilman Heidner gave an update.
5. Adjournment by 10 PM.
Commissioner Darkenwald motioned to adjourn. Seconded by
Commissioner Fallon. All in favor. Motion carried.
Meeting adjourned at 8:02 pm.
Richard Nichols, Chair
ATTEST:
Karee Rowell, Deputy Clerk