04-07-03 PCMINUTES
so CITY OF OTSEGO
PLANNING COMMISSION
MEETING
APRIL 7, 2003
8 P
OTSEGO CITY HALL
1. Chair Nichols will call the meeting to order.
Chair Nichols called the meeting to order at 8:11 PM.
Roll Call: Chair Richard Nichols, Pam Black, David Thompson and Steve
Schuck.
Excused absence: Jim Kolles, Carl Swenson and Ken Fry.
Absent: Christian Mbanefo.
Staff. Judy Hudson, City Clerk/Zoning Administrator and Dan Licht, City Planner.
City Council: Mayor Larry Fournier; Councilmembers: Vern Heidner, Jerry Struthers and
Virginia Wendel.
2. Consider the following minutes:
2.1. Planning Commission Meeting of March 17, 2003.
Commission Member Black noted that under Item 2. it should read CM Swenson
motioned for approval etc.
Commissioner Schuck motioned to approve the minutes as corrected. Commissioner
Black seconded. All in favor. Motion carried.
3. PlanningItems:
ems:
3.1. PUBLIC HEARING:
T. D. Juergens, Anoka Equine Veterinary Services to rezone a portion of
property from A-1 to B-3.
Dan Licht presented the Planner's Report. Judy Hudson attested the proper publishing
and noticing was done.
The applicant, Dr. Tom Juergens, stated he has sold his shares in Anoka Equine
Veterinary Services and assured that the business will continue as it is currently operating
and he wants to separate the business from the rest of his property.
Chair Nichols opened the Public Hearing at 8:17 PM.
There was no public comment.
Commissioner Schuck asked where the drain field is located. Dan Licht replied it is
located west of the building and is covered by an easement.
Hearing no public comments, Chair Nichols closed the Public Hearing at 8:19 PM.
Commissioner Schuck motioned to recommend to approve a Zoning Map
amendment rezoning the 4 acre portion of the subject site from A-1 District to B-3
District based on a finding that the request is consistent with the Comprehensive
Plan. Seconded by Commissioner Thompson. All in favor. Motion carried.
Planning Commission Meeting of April 7, 2003. Page 2.
3.2. PUBLIC HEARING: Elk River Alano Society for a Conditional
Use Permit to add on to Current institutional Facility in a R-2 District.
Dan Licht presented the Planner's Report. Judy Hudson attested all proper noticing and
publishing was done.
Chair Nichols opened the Public Hearing at 8:25 PM.
Applicant and Board Member of Alano Kevin Palmer, 19855 154`h St. NW, Elk River,
was in attendance for questions.
Jim Kyenda, 14505 92°d Street NE (River's Glen Addition). He has been living at this
address for 3 years and has been hearing loud noises on Fridays and Saturdays from
Alano for that length of time. The vehicles are loud and obnoxious.
Tom Hendrickson, 14501 92°d (River's Glen Addition) stated that this is a good
organization but there is no control of partying out in the lot. There is loud music and
abandoned cars. Motorcycles and cars driving through the lot all night long. He has
called the sheriff on this but feels he shouldn't have to do this and he doesn't agree with
vegetation berming or the addition to the building.
Brian Lugent, 14438 91S` Street and is adjacent to Alano. Mr. Lugent said that for the last
two weeks the last car leaves any time between midnight and 1 AM with the car lights
shining into his house. The cars are left running and the motorcycles are too loud. Mr.
Lugent has talked to Alano about his concerns. He doesn't feel a vegetation buffer is
adequate. He would like to see a fence installed as this is not a residential use. He
doesn't want the additional parking because it would remove the vegetation.
Nate Dittbender of 14476 91s` Street. He has no problem with the organization. He
agrees with installing a fence as there is too much noise from the vehicles and
motorcycles.
Kevin Palmer stated he can appreciate their concerns and they will look into a fence. He
said he hasn't heard these complaints before and will try and keep the noise down. He
said Alano has been there since 1985 and they haven't received any complaints from the
City.
Chair Nichols asked what is the current size of the building and size of the addition and if
the City could require a landscaping plan and address the hours of activities both indoor
and outdoor.
Dan Licht explained the current building is 72 by 38 with a proposed 1,550 square foot
addition and could address the hours of operation.
Commission Member Schuck asked what are current hours. Mr. Palmer explained they
have meetings every night of the week with the latest meeting over at 9 PM. They have
fundraisers that go to midnight and average less than one a month.
Chair Nichols asked for additional public comments.
Tom Hendrickson said if those are the hours than they need to clear people out of the
parking lot at the end of the meeting.
Brian Lugent supports the ideas of controlling the hours of operation, a fence and
landscaping along Odean Avenue.
Jim Kjenda stated he sees people partying Friday and Saturday nights and sees large
bonfires and the music is too loud. They have 22 children in their neighborhood and are
Planning Commission Meeting of April 7, 2003. Page 3.
not comfortable with all the partying going on across the street. He wants the hours of
operation restricted.
Nate Dittbenner he wants a fence installed and hours restricted.
Hearing no other public comments, Chair Nichols closed the Public Hearing at 8:44 PM.
Chair Nichols said that from the public comments heard there needs to be something done
regarding hours, screening and parking. He recommended tabling this and have staff
work these issues out with the applicant.
Commission Member Black asked if the members have keys and can go there at any time.
Mr. Palmer said all 44 members have keys and they can come and go as they wish. There
are about 300 people using the facility.
Chair Nichols motioned to table the application until the first meeting in May and for
staff to meet with the applicant and address the screening, parking and hours including
the hours members can use the facility and for the City Clerk to check with the Sheriff's
Department. Seconded by Commission Member Schuck. All in favor. Motion carried.
3.3. Consideration of Quest Development's request for Comprehensive Plan
Amendment. (Public Hearing for this was closed on December 16, 2002
The applicant wrote a letter requesting to table his applicant. Dan Licht will contact the
applicant.
3.4. PUBLIC HEARING: Lucinda Gardner of Darrel Farr
Development:
A. Rezone property from A-1 to R-6.
B. PUD -CUP for unit/base subdivision of proposed townhouse bldg_s.
C. Preliminary Plat for development of 324 units.
Dan Licht presented the Planner's Report. Judy Hudson attested all proper noticing and
publishing was done. Judy also noted she received a phone call from Alan Taylor of 7708
LaBeaux Avenue. Mr. Taylor stated concern if the north and south entrances of the
service road along LaBeaux would be closed and all the traffic directed to the 77`h Street
entrance.
Dan Licht noted the service road will not be closed off at this time but as traffic increases
the north entrance could be closed.
Mike Gair, applicant, on behalf of Lucinda Gardner and also Lee Johnson is here
representing Orrin Thompson Homes. Mr. Gair stated this 41 -acre development is part of
a larger master plan (Arbor Creek). They have complied with the Staff report by
reducing the number of row homes from 78 to 70, increased landscaping and increasing
the Shoreland setback to 100 feet. Regarding the .street radius, the applicant is asking for
allowance for curbs tighter than the 250 feet allowed.
Chair Nichols opened the Public Hearing for public comments at 9:26 PM.
Marge Lindenfelser of 7706 LaBeaux Avenue (north side of 77th) is concerned with only
one entrance into the development and all the traffic it will generate. She asked who will
pay for the sewer and will there be playground equipment, streetlights, a turn lane off of
CSAH 19 and what kind of buildings. She is also concerned with the growth and the
impact to the school system and sheriff's department. She would like to see more
commercial and industrial development.
Planning Commission Meeting of April 7, 2003. Page 4.
Tom Guimont, 7614 LaBeaux Avenue supports Mrs. Lindenfelser's comments.
He would like to see the north and south entrances of the service road cut off and all the
traffic funneled to the 77th Street entrance. He was also concerned if the city well would
impact their wells. He moved here to be in the country. He asked if there are park
dedication fees. Mr. Guimont asked if there are any plans for their homes along CSAH
19.
Carol Fernholz of 7514 LaBeaux stated she agrees with all these comments. His other
concern is children walking down the service road to get to the bus with all the traffic.
Councilmember Heidner explained this developer will be paying over $660,000 in park
and trail fees and there will be a 10 acre park just to the southeast of this development in
Arbor Creek.
Dan Licht explained about the access to Arbor Creek from 80`h Street, which will be
developed before this project. The City is also working with Albertville on the MacIver
and 70`h Streets upgrades so they can get traffic off of CSAH 19. The developer provides
streetlights at every intersection, a turn lane off of CSAH 19 will be required. The
residents in this area pay a fee to the Albertville Fire Department for fire protection. The
impact to the school systems by Otsego is only a small part of the growth they are
experiencing. It is the goal of the City to get more commercial and industrial and 30% of
the sewer and water district is reserved for this but residential growth is needed to pay for
it and create workers. Municipal wells go deeper and won't impact individual wells.
There will be landscaping around the Pumphouse to lessen any impact. Dan Licht also
explained the street impact fees.
Chair Nichols asked the developer if they have considered removing the driveways going
onto 77`h Street and replacing with sidewalk. Mike Gair replied that looks viable. Staff
also discussed the street curve.
Chair Nichols opened for additional public comments.
Tim Guimont asked if there will be any rezoning for our houses such as commercial.
Dan Licht explained that area is planned for high density residential.
Marge Lindenfelser asked if there is an access to 80`h Street. Dan Licht explained the
access to 80`h Street. She also asked whom pays for all the sewer etc., Dan explained the
developer does.
Carol Fernholz asked how long it will take to develop out. Dan Licht said that with this
development and Arbor Creek it is estimated to take 5 to 6 years.
Chair Nichols closed the Public Hearing at 10:15 PM.
Commission Member Schuck motioned to approve a Zoning Map amendment
rezoning the subject site form an A-1 District to a R-6 District designation based on
a finding that the request is consistent with the Comprehensive Plan. Seconded by
Commission Member Black. All in favor. Motion carried.
Planning Commission Meeting of April 7, 2003. Page 5.
Commission Member Schuck motioned to approve the preliminary plat and PUD -
CUP for Pleasant Creek Farms subject to the 12 conditions listed in the Planner's
Report. Seconded by Commission Member Thompson. All in favor. Motion
carried.
3.5. PUBLIC HEARING: Arbor Creek's Environmental
Assessment Worksheet.
Dan Licht presented the Staff Report. Judy Hudson attested the proper publishing was
done
Chair Nichols opened the Public Hearing at 10:29 PM
Hearing no public comments, Chair Nichols closed the Public Hearing at 10:30 PM.
Commission Member Schuck motioned to adopt the findings that the proposed
Arbor Creek does not have potential for significant environmental effects and that
preparation of an EIS is not to be required based on a review of the submitted EAW
and evidence received, subject to the conditions listed in the Planner's Report dated
April 1, 2003. Seconded by Commission Member Black. All in favor. Motion
carried.
4. Any other Planning Commission Business.
A. Update on Council actions by CM Heidner.
CM Heidner gave an update on the park bids and the projected future park and trail
dedication fees.
5. Adjournment by 10 PM.
Commission Member Schuck motioned to adjourn. Seconded by Commission
Member Thompson. All in favor. Motion carried.
Meeting adjourned at 10:32 PM.
Richard Nichols, Chair
ATTEST:
Judy Hudson, Zoning Adm/Clerk