03-05-12 PCITEM 7_7
OTSEGO PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
OTSEGO CITY HALL
MARCH 5, 2012
7 PM
Call to Order.
Chair Black called the meeting to order at 7:00 PM.
Roll Call: Chair Pam Black; Commissioners: David Thompson, Tammie Fallon,
Brian Gerten and Aaron Stritesky. Absent: Jim Kolles and Richard Nichols.
City Council: CM Vern Heidner. Staff: Daniel Licht, City Planner; and Tami Loff,
City Clerk.
1. Consider the following minutes.
1.1 February 21, 2012 Planning Commission Meeting.
Commissioner Fallon motioned to approve as written. Seconded by
Commissioner Stritesky. All in favor. Motion carried.
2. Public Hearing:
2.1 Kittredge Crossings 6t" Addition:
A. Preliminary plat and PUD/Development Stage Plan to replat 70
townhouse unit lots and common open space as 28 single
family lots.
B. Vacation of existing drainage and utility easement.
City Planner Licht presented the Planning Report. Representatives for applicant
Shelard Group, Inc.; Jacob Wert and Marty Campion were present and agreed
with the staff report recommendations.
City Clerk Loff attested that all the proper noticing, posting and publishing has
been completed. City Clerk Loff stated for the record she received a call from
residents Troy & Megan Gutzwiller, 7473 Kahler Court NE, who said they approve
of the proposal and they would rather see single family over townhomes.
Chair Black opened the Public Hearing at 7:10 PM.
Michelle Oliveira, 7490 Kahler Court NE, said that she rather see single family
homes than townhomes. Her concerns are if there is going to be any additional
cost to the existing residents, she doesn't want to see the houses sit unfinished
and she is also concerned with weeds. City Planner Licht said there will be no
additional costs to the existing residents. City Planner Licht said that builder has
180 days from which the building permit is issued to complete exterior work. City
Planner Licht said that property maintenance is addressed by the City Code and
is actively enforced.
David Anderson, 7243 Kittredge Cove NE, said his house was supposed to be a
row house at one time but the builder ran out of money and never finished it.
City Planner Licht said that City staff has talked with Mr. Anderson on this issue
and explained that Mr. Anderson owns a townhouse on a unit lot.
Planning Commission Meeting March 5, 2012.
Michelle Oliveira, 7490 Kahler Court NE, asked what Outlot B will be. City Planner
Licht said it is to be a stormwater basin. Applicant Engineer Mr. Campion said
the proposed pond is in the same general location as the existing pond but going
to be slightly reconfigured.
Luis Oliveira, 7490 Kahler Court NE, said he is concerned with the open pond and
the kids in the neighborhood. Mr. Campion said the pond is designed to have
water in it but has gradual slopes along the perimeter. City Planner Licht said
that the development is required to have the pond by State law.
Alisha Ely, 7300 Kahler Circle NE, said she is worried having undeveloped or
unfinished projects. Mr. Campion said that the current developer Shelard Group,
Inc. has been maintaining the property and that any undone building they took
back from the original developer has been completed and sold. Mr. Campion
said they only have control over lots they own. Ms. Ely also has concern on what
kind of home goes in. Mr. Campion said that the developer would expect
something similar to the north but they don't have a builder identified yet.
Brian Dancer, 7327 Kalland Circle NE, said he has concern with the condition of
70th Street and also that there are no sidewalks or paths. City Planner Licht said
that the City is aware of 70th Street's condition. City Planner Licht said that this
is a border street owned by both the City of Otsego and the City of Albertville
and that Otsego has not been able to get an agreement with the City of
Albertville to fix this street. CM Heidner said four years ago Otsego was willing to
go ahead with an agreement and is still willing to work with Albertville.
Michelle Oliveira, 7490 Kahler Court NE, asked if the stormwater pond will fill the
whole outline of the map shown. City Planner Licht said that map shows the
contours of the pond. Ms. Oliveira asked how far off 70th Street is the pond. Mr.
Campion said that the edge of the normal water is 30 feet from the road.
Michelle Oliveira, 7490 Kahler Court NE, asked if the developer is looking at the
other proposed townhomes. Mr. Wert said that at this time they are only
proposing to replat Kittredge Crossings 6th Addition and have not considered
changes to other areas within Kittredge Crossings that they own.
Commissioner Gerten asked if there should be any worry of previously put in gas
lines. City Planner Licht said the gas lines would be on the public right of way.
Commissioner Thompson asked how many feet between the sidewalk and the
boulevard. Mr. Campion said he is not sure if in the property line; it is within the
right of way. City Planner Licht said that City staff intends that most of side walk
would be within the right away. Commissioner Thompson said there is no
sidewalk on the inner line. City Planner Licht said correct.
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Planning Commission Meeting March 5, 2012.
David Anderson, 7243 Kittredge Cove NE, asked what the speed limit is on 70th
Street because there are no speed limit signs. Mr. Anderson also said that the
grass was only cut two times last year. City Planner Licht said that City staff will
check with the City Engineer on the speed limit and reply to Mr. Anderson. City
Planner Licht said regarding the grass mowing that there was a change to the
City Code that allows a property with more than one acre to have taller grass
provided the noxious weeds are controlled. City Planner Licht said they still are
required to mow a buffer zone next to developed lots.
Chair Black closed the Public Hearing at 7:44 PM.
Commissioner Thompson motioned to approve the PUD Development
Stage Plan/ Preliminary Plat and easement vacation for Kittredge
Crossings 10th Addition subject to the eleven (11) conditions listed in
the planners report dated March 1, 2012. Seconded by Commissioner
Stritesky. All in favor. Motion carried.
2.2 MN Native Landscapes:
A. Application to amend Section 37 regarding signs for forestry,
nurseries,, green houses and tree farm uses.
City Planner Licht presented the Planning Report. Applicant Joe Schaffer with
MN Native Landscapes said he is looking for more exposure and that he agrees
with staff report and recommendations.
City Clerk Loff attested that all the proper noticing, posting and publishing has
been completed.
Chair Black opened the Public Hearing at 7:51 PM.
Commissioner Gerten asked if there is example of signs requested. City Planner
Licht said some examples would be Trudell Trailers and Midwest Landscapes.
Hearing no public comment Chair Black closed the Public Hearing at 7:53 PM.
Commissioner Stritesky motioned to approve Ordinance 2012-02 as
presented. Seconded by Commissioner Thompson. All in favor. Motion
carried.
3. Update on City Council actions.
CM Heidner updated the Commissioners on City Council actions.
4. Update on Future Planning Commission Agenda items.
City Clerk Loff said the next Planning Commission meeting will be held on April 2,
2012 to review the Capital Improvement Plan.
5. Adjourn.
Commissioner Fallon motioned to adjourn. Seconded by Commissioner
Gerten. All in favor. Motion carried. Adjourned at 8:01 PM.
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Planning Commission Meeting March 5, 2012.
Pam Black, Chair
Attest:
Tam! Loff, City Clerk
OTSEGO PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
OTSEGO CITY HALL
MARCH S. 2012
7 PM
Call to Order.
Chair Black called the meeting to order at 7:00 PM.
Roll Call: Chair Pam Black; Commissioners: David Thompson, Tammie Fallon,
Brian Gerten and Aaron Stritesky. Absent: Jim Kolles and Richard Nichols.
City Council: CM Vern Heidner. Staff: Daniel Licht, City Planner; and Tami Loff,
City Clerk.
1. Consider the following minutes.
1.1 February 21, 2012 Planning Commission Meeting.
Commissioner Fallon motioned to approve as written. Seconded by
Commissioner Stritesky. All in favor. Motion carried.
2. Public Hearing:
2.1 Kittredge Crossings 6t" Addition:
A. Preliminary plat and PUD/Development Stage Plan to replat 70
townhouse unit lots and common open space as 28 single
family lots.
B. Vacation of existing drainage and utility easement.
City Planner Licht presented the Planning Report. Representatives for applicant
Shelard Group, Inc.; Jacob Wert and Marty Campion were present and agreed
with the staff report recommendations.
City Clerk Loff attested that all the proper noticing, posting and publishing has
been completed. City Clerk Loff stated for the record she received a call from
residents Troy & Megan Gutzwiller, 7473 Kahler Court NE, who said they approve
of the proposal and they would rather see single family over townhomes.
Chair Black opened the Public Hearing at 7:10 PM.
Michelle Oliveira, 7490 Kahler Court NE, said that she rather see single family
homes than townhomes. Her concerns are if there is going to be any additional
cost to the existing residents, she doesn't want to see the houses sit unfinished
and she is also concerned with weeds. City Planner Licht said there will be no
additional costs to the existing residents. City Planner Licht said that builder has
180 days from which the building permit is issued to complete exterior work. City
Planner Licht said that property maintenance is addressed by the City Code and
is actively enforced.
David Anderson, 7243 Kittredge Cove NE, said his house was supposed to be a
row house at one time but the builder ran out of money and never finished it.
City Planner Licht said that City staff has talked with Mr. Anderson on this issue
and explained that Mr. Anderson owns a townhouse on a unit lot.
Planning Commission Meeting March 5, 2012.
Michelle Oliveira, 7490 Kahler Court NE, asked what Outlot B will be. City Planner
Licht said it is to be a stormwater basin. Applicant Engineer Mr. Campion said
the proposed pond is in the same general location as the existing pond but going
to be slightly reconfigured.
Luis Oliveira, 7490 Kahler Court NE, said he is concerned with the open pond and
the kids in the neighborhood. Mr. Campion said the pond is designed to have
water in it but has gradual slopes along the perimeter. City Planner Licht said
that the development is required to have the pond by State law.
Alisha Ely, 7300 Kahler Circle NE, said she is worried having undeveloped or
unfinished projects. Mr. Campion said that the current developer Shelard Group,
Inc. has been maintaining the property and that any undone building they took
back from the original developer has been completed and sold. Mr. Campion
said they only have control over lots they own. Ms. Ely also has concern on what
kind of home goes in. Mr. Campion said that the developer would expect
something similar to the north but they don't have a builder identified yet.
Brian Dancer, 7327 Kalland Circle NE, said he has concern with the condition of
70th Street and also that there are no sidewalks or paths. City Planner Licht said
that the City is aware of 70th Street's condition. City Planner Licht said that this
is a border street owned by both the City of Otsego and the City of Albertville
and that Otsego has not been able to get an agreement with the City of
Albertville to fix this street. CM Heidner said four years ago Otsego was willing to
go ahead with an agreement and is still willing to work with Albertville.
Michelle Oliveira, 7490 Kahler Court NE, asked if the stormwater pond will fill the
whole outline of the map shown. City Planner Licht said that map shows the
contours of the pond. Ms. Oliveira asked how far off 70th Street is the pond. Mr.
Campion said that the edge of the normal water is 30 feet from the road.
Michelle Oliveira, 7490 Kahler Court NE, asked if the developer is looking at the
other proposed townhomes. Mr. Wert said that at this time they are only
proposing to replat Kittredge Crossings 6th Addition and have not considered
changes to other areas within Kittredge Crossings that they own.
Commissioner Gerten asked if there should be any worry of previously put in gas
lines. City Planner Licht said the gas lines would be on the public right of way.
Commissioner Thompson asked how many feet between the sidewalk and the
boulevard. Mr. Campion said he is not sure if in the property line; it is within the
right of way. City Planner Licht said that City staff intends that most of side walk
would be within the right away. Commissioner Thompson said there is no
sidewalk on the inner line. City Planner Licht said correct.
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Planning Commission Meeting March 5, 2012.
David Anderson, 7243 Kittredge Cove NE, asked what the speed limit is on 70th
Street because there are no speed limit signs. Mr. Anderson also said that the
grass was only cut two times last year. City Planner Licht said that City staff will
check with the City Engineer on the speed limit and reply to Mr. Anderson. City
Planner Licht said regarding the grass mowing that there was a change to the
City Code that allows a property with more than one acre to have taller grass
provided the noxious weeds are controlled. City Planner Licht said they still are
required to mow a buffer zone next to developed lots.
Chair Black closed the Public Hearing at 7:44 PM.
Commissioner Thompson motioned to approve the PUD Development
Stage Plan/ Preliminary Plat and easement vacation for Kittredge
Crossings 10th Addition subject to the eleven (11) conditions listed in
the planners report dated March 1, 2012. Seconded by Commissioner
Stritesky. All in favor. Motion carried.
2.2 MN Native Landscapes:
A. Application to amend Section 37 regarding signs for forestrx,
nurseries, green houses and tree farm uses.
City Planner Licht presented the Planning Report. Applicant Joe Schaffer with
MN Native Landscapes said he is looking for more exposure and that he agrees
with staff report and recommendations.
City Clerk Loff attested that all the proper noticing, posting and publishing has
been completed.
Chair Black opened the Public Hearing at 7:51 PM.
Commissioner Gerten asked if there is example of signs requested. City Planner
Licht said some examples would be Trudell Trailers and Midwest Landscapes.
Hearing no public comment Chair Black closed the Public Hearing at 7:53 PM.
Commissioner Stritesky motioned to approve Ordinance 2012-02 as
presented. Seconded by Commissioner Thompson. All in favor. Motion
carried.
3. Update on City Council actions.
CM Heidner updated the Commissioners on City Council actions.
4. Update on Future Planning Commission Agenda items.
City Clerk Loff said the next Planning Commission meeting will be held on April 2,
2012 to review the Capital Improvement Plan.
5. Adjourn.
Commissioner Fallon motioned to adjourn. Seconded by Commissioner
Gerten. All in favor. Motion carried. Adjourned at 8:01 PM.
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Planning Commission Meeting March 5, 2012.
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Pam Black, Chair
Attest: n
Tami Loff, City Clerk