07-18-16 Planning Commission MinutesOTSEGO PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
OTSEGO PRAIRIE CENTER
July 18, 2016
7:00 PM
Call to Order.
Commissioner Thompson called the meeting to order at 7:00 PM.
Roll Call: Commissioners: David Thompson, Roger Mord, Richard Nichols, and Alan
Offerman. Absent: Chair Pam Black and Commissioners Jim Kolles, Aaron Stritesky and
Steve Schuck. City Council: Vern Heidner. Staff: Daniel Licht, City Planner and Connie
Schwecke, Administrative Assistant.
1. Announcements:
No Announcements.
2. Consider the following minutes:
2.1 June 6, 2016 Planning Commission Meeting.
Commissioner Mord motioned to approve minutes as written. Seconded
by Commissioner Offerman. All in favor. Motion carried.
3. Public Hearing item:
3.1 Martin Farms 4th addition:
A. PUD - CUP and preliminary plat of 99 single family lots and HOA community
building.
City Planner Licht presented the Planning Report.
Applicant, Paul Tabone, Lennar Corporation, had nothing to further to add to the
planning report.
Commissioner Thompson opened the Public Hearing at 7:12PM.
Troy Derosier 11893 74th St, Otsego, stated he lived on north side of Martin Farms,
west of MacIver Avenue. Mr. Derosier also stated his concerns that his children do not
have direct access to the proposed HOA pool and would need to cross Maciver Avenue
to get to either the existing pool or proposed pool. City Planner Licht stated that City
could look into the ability of adding a private trail or sidewalk on the west side of
Maciver Avenue between 73 Streetand 74th Street.
Commissioner Nichols questioned the proposed wetland setbacks. City Planner Licht
explained that Lots 1, 5, 6, and 8-10, Block 1 have a narrowDepth between the wetland
and fixed street location. Commissioner Nichols stated that it would affect these few
lots and Mr. Licht agreed.
Commissioner Nichols questioned the front setback of feet on all buildingsand if the City
was planning to change the standard setback requirement in the R-5 and R-6 zoning.
City Planner Licht stated the Planning Commission has discussed doing this based on
past approvals.
Commissioner Thompson questioned if the 25 foot setback was from the sidewalk or
the street. City Planner Licht stated the setback is 25 feet from the street right-of-way
and an additional 16 feet to the curb.
Commissioner Nichols questioned the applicant if the Next Gen homes were on one
level and had a basement. Mr. Tabone stated the Next Gen suite is on the same level
and these homes do come with a basement option. Commissioner Nichols asked if
these Next Gen suites had a sleeping and common area. Mr. Tabone stated the suites
had a sleeping area, common area, and small kitchenette.
Commissioner Thompson questioned how to extend the utilities of the Next Gen homes
if a buyer wanted to add a suite later. Mr. Tabone explained that the Next Gen homes
come with the NextGen suite with one utility service into the home to accommodate
multi -generational living. City Planner Licht stated that looking at this house from the
outside, it is not apparent that there are two separate living areas.
Commissioner Nichols asked if the NextGen had a larger footprint that the other models
and Mr. Tabone stated yes a little larger.
Commissioner Thompson asked if there was a minimum lot size to accommodate a Next
Gen home. Mr. Tabone stated that they do have NextGen homes that fit on 65' lots and
75' lots.
Commissioner Nichols questioned the issue of someone running this suite as a rental.
City Planner Licht stated that the City adds performance standards to the conditions of
approval to that there is the ability to enforce if necessary.
Commissioner Offerman asked if the closest park, with sidewalk access, would be
Beaudry Meadows Park -when development comes to the west. City Planner Licht said
yes.
Commissioner Nichols questioned since Maciver Ave is a main road, why the City did not
add sidewalks or trails to both sides of the street. City Planner Licht stated it is the
policy to have a sidewalk on one side of the street both due to initial cost and for long-
term maintenance.
Troy Derosier 11893 74th St NE Otsego, stated his concern that the sidewalk off of
MacIver Avenue is not cut out to the street and that children on bicycles have to jump
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off the curbs. City Planner Licht stated that the Street Department is aware of this
issue going to make that fix notwithstanding this development proposal.
Jeanette Kurtti, 115285 70th St, Otsego, asked what the sizes of the proposed homes
are. Mr. Tabonestated that the homes range from 2,000-3,500 square feet and the
NextGen add from 400-800 square feet to each house plan.
Commissioner Thompson closed the Public Hearing at 7:29 PM.
Commissioner Nichols motioned to recommend to the City Council approval
of the Martin Farms 4th Addition Preliminary Plat and PUD CUP subject to the
14 conditions. Seconded by Commissioner Offerman. All in favor. Motion
carried.
3.2 Wildflower Meadows, Outlot A:
A. Preliminary plat and final plat of 26 single family dwellings.
City Planner Licht presented the Planning Report.
Applicant, John Blattman, 4247 117 Ln, Blaine, stated he had no comments regarding
the planning report. Mr. Blattman also stated that one lot is to be eliminated from
Blocks 2 and 3.
Commissioner Thompson opened the Public Hearing at 7:46PM.
Karin Johnson 16624 72nd Ct NE, Otsego, questioned where the driveways would be in
relation to the private driveway going through. City Planner Licht stated the driveways
for the detached townhomes would be off of the private drive to the south, not 72nd
Court shared with the existing townhomes.
Commissioner Thompson questioned what the minimum size of the proposed garage is?
Applicant, Mr. Blattman stated that the garages are a minimum of 22 feet by 22 feet
and the association has control on outdoor parking. Mr. Blattman also said that each
dwelling will include the laundry or utility room being reinforced as a saferoom.
Commissioner Thompson commented that he liked the idea of a safe room.
Commissioner Nichols questioned the proposed 12 foot setback between the buildings.
Mr. Blattman said that the reduced setback was needed to accommodate the option of
disability accessible dwellings, which have wider hallways, doorways, etc. City Planner
Licht suggested that the setback could be reduced only to provide for a disability
accessible dwelling on a lot. Commissioner Nichols is an agreement to the modification.
Commissioner Thompson questioned where the air conditioning units would be? Mr.
Blattman stated the units would usually be tucked in behind the garages as far away
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from the living areas as possible, but sometimes the units would be in the side setback.
Council Member Heidner stated that when homes are close together, it is very difficult
to get emergency equipment access in those side and backyards.
Cynthia Lind, 16689 72 St. NE, Otsego, asked the Commissioners not to approve so
many homes so close to each other. Commissioner Thompson added that the original
plan had 114 homes and now there are 24 homes.
Karin Johnson, 16624 72 Ct. NE, Otsego, asked the price ranges of the proposed
homes. Mr. Blattman, stated the homes start in the mid -200,000's and go up.
Commissioner Thompson closed the Public Hearing at 8:03PM.
Commissioner Mord questioned the seven foot side setback. City Planner Licht stated
that the seven foot setback is the minimum necessary to allow for mechanical
equipment to be located in a side yard and not encroach upon the five foot wide
drainage and utility easement at the perimeter of all lots.
Commission Thompson requested revising condition 2.0 to read:
C. Provide an attached garage with a minimum width of 22 feet and minimum area
of 480 square feet.
City Planner Licht recommended that the table in condition 5 would be changed to
read:
5. The following setbacks shall apply to all lots within the preliminary plat:
Quenroe Ave./
Wetland Pvt.
Interior Side(1)
72nd St.
Drive
Principal
Attached
Btwn.
Bldg.
Garage
Bldgs.
25ft.
40ft. 25ft.
10ft.
5ft.
15ft.
1. The setback between buildings may be reduced to 14ft. for a dwelling
designed as disability accessible, that which side yard shall be clear of all
obstructions.
Commissioner Nichols motioned to recommend to the City Council
approval of a PUD -CUP and preliminary plat for Wildflower Meadows
Villas subject to the 12 amended conditions. Seconded by
Commissioner Offerman. All in favor. Motion carried.
4. Non -Public Hearing item:
4.1 Temporary Family Healthcare Dwellings.
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City Planner Licht presented the Planning Report.
Commissioner Offerman asked what City Ordinance prevents people from living in
structures like this now. City Planner Licht stated that Section 16 of the Zoning
Ordinance specifies dwelling unit restrictions.
Commissioner Offerman motioned to recommend to the City Council to
call, for a public hearing to be held on August 15, 2016 to consider
amendment of the Zoning Ordinance to address temporary health care
dwellings. Seconded by Commissioner Nichols. All in favor. Motion
carried.
5. Update on City Council actions.
CM Heidner gave an update to the Commissioners on City Council actions.
6. Update on future Planning Commission Agenda items
City Planner Licht updated the Commissioners.
7. Adjourn.
Commissioner Nichols motioned to adjourn. Seconded by
Commissioner Mord. All in favor. Motion carried. Adjourned at 8:26PM.
David Thompson, Vice Chair
ATTEST:
Connie Schwecke, Administrative Assistant
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