ITEM 1.1OTSEGO PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
i TSE O CITE' FALL
Jure 1,, 2013
':00 PM
CII to Order.
Chair Black called the meeting to order at :9 PM#
Roll Call: Chair Pani Black; Commissioners: David Thompson, Richard Michels, Tar mie
Fallen, Brian Gerten and Heather Eider. Absent: Aaron stritesky and Jing Kolles.
City Council: CM Vern Heidnerf staff: Daniel Licht, City Planner; and Tami Leff, City
Clerk.
1. Consider the following minutes:
1.1 March 4. 2013 Planning Commission Meetin g
Commissioner Thompson motioned to approve as written, Seconded by
Commissioner Nichols. All in, furor. Motion carried,
Public Hearin items:
,1 d usten 2nd Addition:
Preliminary and Final Plat.
B. Vacation of Drainaqe Easement.
City Planner Licht presented the Planning Report. Applicant Chad Christian,, 7193 NE
River Road# and Bill Christian from Christian Builders were present and agreed with City
staff report,
City Clerk Leff attested all the proper noticing, posting and publishing has been
completed.
Chair Black opened the Public Hearing at 7:09 PM.
Iden Paige, 15198 881 Street, said he is the adjoining property and there have been
let of drainage issues in the past he is concerned with drainage with this project. Mr.
Paige also stated he was told thep rperty could net be subdivided and can't build on.
He said he spoke with a driller that hit grater at 2-4 feet below the surface, Mr. Paige
submitted to the City Clerk a petition signed by residents against the project.
Dean Lowe, 8957 Packard Avenue NE, his understanding was there would be no
building on this lot.
Steve Schuck, 1 170 88th Street NE, said it is his understanding the property could not
be subdivided and that outlots were prohibited from building citing language in the
Subdivision Ordinance. He said his sister tried to subdivide the lot to the south of this
site and was told no subdivision would be allowed. Mr. Schuck said he has concern
with the drainage and where it will go.
Cory Vue, 8849 Packard Avenue NE, is concerned with the drainage and spoke of a
stink hole in the street at the intersection of Packard Avenue and 881h Street as a safety
concern.
Debbie Lowe, 8957 Packard Avenue NE, is concerned with the additional traffic and
signage. Chair Black asked what type of sign the City posts for dead end streets and if
an "No Outlet" sign would be possible. City Planner Licht said the City has adopted the
uniform traffic sign manual but has discussed other options for a dead end signs such
as those mounted on top of the street name signs,
Joy Campbell, 873$ Packard Avenue NE, brought pictures of the drainage issue in back
yard from previous years that has now been fixed but he has concern dor additional
drainage issue. The Planning Commissioner asked if there was any water issue now.
Mr. Campbell said no.
Danny Fietek, 15117 87th Street NE, said he has a water concern and stated he thought
the property could not be subdivided. Mr. Fietek asked if the residents would be
required to subdivide if sewer and water was available. City Planner Licht said right now
the City is only considering the subdivision of this property and that the City has no
pians for sewer and water in that area in accordance with the current Comprehensive
Pian.
Commissioner Nichols asked what had been fixed in this area regarding stormwater.
City Planner Licht said there was a breakage in a stormwater pipe at the intersection
that the Public Works Department repaired.
Commissioner Nichols asked with the grading plan is anything going to be moved
around other that the houses pad. City Planner Licht said that the only grading will
occur at the house pads.
There was discussion on easement and access.
commissioner Thompson asked the builder if the houses will he raised. Mr. Bili Christian
said that the houses will most likely be split entry designs that doesn't require a lot of
fill.
Dean Lowe, 8957 Packard Avenue NE, said the current trees are taking up the
stormwater runoff and he is concerned about their removal.
Ken Paige, 1 108 88th Street, asked if they are changing the elevation of the site. city
Planner Licht said just in the area of the building pad.
Cory Vue, 8$09 Packard Avenue NE, stated his safety concern again regarding the sink
holes that acquired a couple years ago and how long it took to get fixed. City Planner
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Licht said the city Council has directed the Public works Department in the future to
contract if needed to get 1t resolved as quickly as possible.
Applicant Chad Christian said both proposed lets are over acre which means there
should be little impact to stormwater drainage and that he plans on keeping as many
trees as possible.
Chair Black closed the Public Hearing at 7:41 PM.
Commissioner Gerten asked what the Planning Commission needed to do regarding the
petition that was submitted. City Planner Licht said that the PlanningCommission may
take it into consideration in making a recommendation to the city Council, it is entered
into the record but no additional action needs to be taken regarding it.
Commissioner Gerten asked about requiring an escrow to guarantee compliance with
the grading plan. City Planner Licit said the City requires an escrow for completion of
the grading plan as part of the development contract and once the grading is complete
and has been certified by the City engineer the escrow is then released.
Commissioner Nichols asked about the outlot status on these parcels. City Planner Licht
established in 1999 when the then owner of the house at the southeast corner of the
site subdivided the property into a one acre lot and Outlot A.
Commissioner Fallon asked at the end of the project will it have to be inspected. City
Planner Licht said that a certified survey is required to be provided at the time each
house is completed to ensure compliance with the approved grading plan.
Commissioner Gerten motioned to recommend to the {City Council Vac tion of
existing drainage and utility easement and approval of the Justin 2nd Addition
preliminary/final plat, subjectto the nine requirements listed in the Planners
Deport. Seconded by Commissioner Fallon. All in furor, Motion carried.
CM Heidner requested the City Engineer fallow up prior to the City Council meeting
regarding the issues raised regarding the soil test and the culvert issue as part of the
public hearing.
. Zoning ordinance update.
City Planner Licht presented the Planning Report.
Commissioner Thompson reviewed his list of iters; livable structures,, easement
between properties/plantings,, tornado shelters or safe rums for townhouses and
setbacks. City Planner Licht said that livable structures are a code enforcement issue
and that easements cannot be obstructed. Commissioner Thompson ,also commented
on the width of the eves of homes. City Planner Licht said he will check with the
Building Inspector.
Update on CityCouncil actions.
CM Heidner updated the Commissioners on City Council actions.
Update _ n future Planning Agenda items.
City Clerk Leff said next meeting is scheduled for July 1 2013.
. Adi urn.
Commissioner Thompson on motioned to adjourn. Seconded by Commissioner
rt+ n. All in favor. Notion carried. Adjourn t 8:27 P 19
Paan Black, Chair
ATTEST:
Tam! Luff, City Clerk
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