06-17-13 PCOTSEGO PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
OTSEGO CITY HALL
June 17, 2013
7.00 PM
Call to order.
Chair sack called the meeting to order at 7:00 PM.
Roll Call: Chair Pam Black; Commissioners: David Thompson, Richard Nichols,, Tamml
Fallon, Brian Gerten and Heather Eider, Absent: Aaron Stltsky and Jim Kolls.
City Council. CM Vern H ldn r. Staff: Daniel Licht, City Planner, and Tami Loff, City
Clerk,
1, Consider the following minutes:
1.1 Mr , 2013 Plannin Collision Meetit .
Commissioner Thompson motioned to approve as written. Seconded by
Commissioner N ollse All in flavor. Motion carried.
2. Pubic Hearingitems:
2.1 Justen 2nd Addition:
A. Preliminary and Final Plat.
B. Vacation of Drainse Easement,
City Planner Licit presented the Planning Report, Applicant Chad Christian, 7193 NE
River Road, and Bill Christian from Christian Builders were present and agreed with City
staff report,
City Clerk Loll attested all the proper noticing, posting and publishing has been
completed.
Chair Black opened the Pudic Hearing at 7:09 PM.
Ken Paige, 15108 88th Street, said he is the adjoining property and there have been a
lot of drainage issues in the past he is concerned with drainage with this project. Mr.
Paige also stated he was told the property could not be subdivided and cant build on.
He said he spoke with a driller that hit water at 2-4 feet below the surface. Mr. Paige
submitted to the City Clerk a petition signed by residents against the project.
Dian Lowe, 8957 Packard Avenue NE, his understanding was there would be no
building on this lob.
Steve Schuck,, 15170 88th Street NE, said it is his understanding the property could not
be subdivided and that out[ots were prohibited from building citing language in the
Subdivision Ordinance. He said his sister tried to subdivide the lot to the south of this
site and was told no subdivision would be allowed. Mr. Schuck said he has concern
with the drainage and where it will go.
Cory Vue, 8809 Packard Avenue NE, is concerned with the drainage and spoke of a
stink hole in the street at the intersection of Packard Avenue and 88t' Street as a safety
concern.
Debbie Lowe, 8957 Packard Avenue NE, is concerned with the additional traffic and
signage. Chair Black asked what type of sign the City posts for dead end streets and if
an "No Outlet" sign would be possible, City Planner Licht said the City has adapted the
uniform traffic sign manna[ but has discussed other options for a dead end signs such
as those mounted on top of the street name signs.
Joe Campbell, 8738 Packard Avenue NE, brought pictures of the drainage issue in back
yard from previous years that has now been fixed but he has concern for additional
drainage issue. The Planning Commissioner asked if there was any water issue now,
Mr. Campbell said no.
Danny fietek, 15117 870 Street NE, said he has a water concern and staffed he thought
the property could not be subdivided. Mr. Fietek asked if the residents would be
required to subdivide if sewer and water was available. City Planner Licht said right now
the City is only considering the subdivision of this property and that the City has no
plans for sewer and water in that area in accordance with the current Comprehensive
Plan.
Commissioner Nichols asked what had been fixed in this area regarding starmwater.
City Planner Licit said there was a breakage in a stormwater pipe at the intersection
that the Public Works Department repaired.
Commissioner Nichols asked with the grading plan is anything going to be moved
around other that the houses pad. City Planner Licht said that the only grading will
occur at the house pads.
Tonere was discussion on easement and accessA
Commissioner Thompson asked the builder if the houses will be raised, Mr. Bill Christian
said that the houses will most likely be spit entry designs that doesn't require a lot of
fill.
Dean Lowe, 8957 Packard Avenue NE, said the current trees are taking up the
stormwater runoff and he is concerned about their removal.
Ken Paige, 15108 88" Street, asked if they are changing the elevation of the site, City
Planner Licht said just in the area of the building pad,
Cory Vue, 8809 Packard Avenin NE, stated his safety concern again regarding the sink
holes that acquired a couple years ago and how long it took to get fixed. City Planner
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Licht said the City Council has directed the Public Works Department in the future to
contract if needed to get it resolved as quickly as possible.
Applicant Chad Christian said both proposed lots are over acre which means there
should be little impact to stormwater drainage and that he plans on keeping as many
trees as possible,
Chair Back closed the Public Hearing at 7.41 PM.
Commissioner Gerten asked what the Planning Commission needed to do regarding the
petition that was submitted. City Planner Licht said that the Planning Commission may
take it into consideration in making a recommendation to the City Council, it is entered
into the record but no additional action needs to be taken regarding it.
Commissioner Gerken asked about requiring an escrow to guarantee compliance with
the grading plan. City Planner Licht said the City requires an escrow for completion of
the grading plan as part of the development contract and once the grading is complete
and has been certified by the City Engineer the escrow is then released.
Commissioner Nichols asked about the outlot status on these parcels. City Planner Licht
established in 1999 when the then owner of the house at the southeast corner of the
site subdivided the property into a one acre [off and Outlot A.
Commissioner Fallon asked at the end of the project will it have to be inspected. City
Planner Licht said that a certified survey is required to be provided at the time each
house is completed to ensure compliance with the approved grading flan.
Commissioner Gerten motioned to recommend to the City Council vacation o
existing r l a and utilityeasement and approval of the Justin 2"d Addition
prelim in r/final plat, subject to the nine requirements listed in the Planners
Report, Seconded by Commissioner Fallon. All in favor. Motion carried.
CM Heidner requested the City Engineer follow up prior to the City Council meeting
regarding the issues raised regarding the sail test and the culvert issue as past of the
public hearing.
3. Zoning ordinance update.
City Planner Licht presented the Panning Report.
Commissioner Thompson reviewed his list of items; livable structures, easement
between properties/plantings, tornado shelters or safe rooms for townhouses and
setbacks. City Planner Licht said that livable structures are a code enforcement issue
and that easements cannot be obstructed. Commissioner Thompson also commented
on the width of the eves of homes. City Planner Licht said he will check with the
Building Inspector.
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i Update o City Council actions.
CM Heldn r updated the Commissioners on City Council actions,
Update on future Plannincl Commission AcIenda items,
City Clerk Loff said next meeting is scheduled for July 1, 2 134
66 Adjourn.
Commissioner Thompson motioned to adjourn, Seconded by Commissioner
Gerten, All in favor. Motion carried. Adjourned at 8:27 PM`K
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Pam Black, Chair
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Tami LofF, City Clerk
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