10-02-17 Planning Commission MinutesOTSEGO PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
OTSEGO PRAIRIE CENTER
October 2, 2017
7:00 PM
Call to Order:
Chair Black called the meeting to order at 7:03 PM.
Roll Call: Chair Pam Black; Commissioners: Steve Schuck, Roger Mord, Richard Nichols,
Aaron Stritesky, Jim Kolles and Alan Offerman; Absent: Commissioner Dave Thompson;
City Council: CM Vern Heidner; Staff: Elizabeth Stockman, Associate City Planner and
Sandy Lindenfelser, Administrative Assistant
1. Announcements:
No announcements.
2. Consider the Following Minutes
2.1 September 18, 2017 Planning Commission Meeting.
Commissioner Schuck motioned to approve as written. Seconded by
Commissioner Mord. All in favor. Motion carried.
3. Public Hearing Item:
3.1 Raspberry Hill:
A. Zoning Map Amendment Rezoning to R-3 District.
B. PUD-CUP/Preliminary Plat for 10 Single Family Lots.
C. Final Plat.
Associate City Planner Stockman gave the planning report noting staff recommends that
lot 4 of block 1 have access to O'Day Court via a shared driveway and that the associated
easements be submitted and recorded with the final plat.
Applicant Tony Bolduc, 15099 Scenic Drive, Dayton MN said that this was an extremely
challenging piece, but agrees with the planning report. Mr. Bolduc also said there is one
benefit of having the two cul-de-sacs is that it would be a natural cut through street.
Chair Black opened the Public Hearing at 7:09PM.
Ryan Korfiatis, 8555 Odean Avenue NE, is curious about the house that is already there
and if it going to stay or not and is also concerned whether there is going to be a buffer
zone along 85th Street for the houses that are already there.
Greg Wuollet, 8301 O'Day Avenue NE, is concerned about the water in the rear portion of
his lot. Mr. Wuollet stated that assuming that his driveway which is very steep (about 6-8
feet elevation) is going to be cut down. Mr. Bolduc said they have addressed this
property and plan to curve the driveway to make it fit more appropriately and the drainage
will go into the overflow pond.
Jane Gangl, 8292 Ochoa Court NE, said their home butts up to the back side of this
property and is concerned about the existing old fence along the property line. Mr. Bolduc
said if it's an eyesore, they will remove it.
Scott Gangl, 8292 Ochoa Court NE, inquired about the sediment pond that separates their
back yard from their neighbor's. This pond used to be 10 to 12 feet deep and is now full
of sediment. The large wetland in the rear of the property is being encroached by cattails
that have naturally grown to over half. So, what used to be 2 ponds is now growing
together as one. Mr. Gangl is also concerned about the location of lot 9 being in a pretty
boggy area that holds water and is near the sediment pond. Councilmember Heidner said
he would discuss this sediment pond with the City Engineer.
Mr. Bolduc stated that most of the drainage on this property will flow away. This property
is on a hill and with the topography in that area, it is a little difficult to have site plans for
the lower 2 properties. As far as site lines, this will be a wooded area with good views.
William Kraus, 8300 Ochoa Court NE, asked if they were going to be clear cutting trees in
this area and if these lots were going to be city sewer and water or well and septic.
Associate Planner Stockman assured him that these lots will be private well and septic.
Mr. Bolduc agreed that this is a beautiful site, reassuring that trees will be taken out that
need to be moved but they are going to leave as many as they can. If the bigger ones
need to be moved, they will be moved, but again, will be saving as many trees as they
possible can.
Paul Schmitz, 8419 O'Dell Avenue NE, concerned about the future of Odean Avenue.
Councilmember Heidner said that the city has no plans to extend Odean and doesn't see
any reason to expand it. Odean Avenue used to be a county road, and in the 1990's, the
city got it as a trade with the county and upgraded it to what it is now, noting he doesn't
see any plans for 20 years out.
Commissioner Offerman asked about lot 4, block 1 being extended to O'Day Court and if
this meant there would be a shared driveway. Associate Planner Stockman said that was
correct. Commissioner Offerman asked how common it is that this happens in a
development. Mr. Bolduc said the reason for the shared driveway was due to the location
of the wetland that doesn't allow for that cul-de-sac to come out that way and we don't
want it having access to a busy road. This way was the best fit.
Commissioner Mord asked if a shared driveway is something that is recorded. Associate
Planner Stockman said that this would be recorded at the time of the final plat.
Commissioner Offerman isn't sure of the shared driveway and is wondering if there were
any existing driveways off Odean or if it was available for them to access Odean?
Associate Planner Stockman doesn't see a problem with a shared driveway and feels this
is, that is why it's a recorded document.
Commissioner Offerman said made it clear to the owner of 8301 O'Day Avenue that the
builder would be taking about 90% of his driveway and if possible, he should try to get a
total driveway out of that.
Chair Black closed the public hearing at 7:35 PM.
Commissioner Offerman asked if the planning commission was to add a condition the
motion of removing that existing fence, could this be added. Associate Planner Stockman
said to add the condition of the existing farm fence lines be located and the fence
removed from the property.
Revised conditions:
5. The preliminary/final plat shall be revised so that all nine (9) new lots
have direct access to O'Day Court or 83rd Circle, subject to review and
approval of City Staff.
14. The location of the existing pasture/farm fencing shall be verified and
removed by the developer from the east and south borders of the plat, if
found to be part of the subject property.
Commissioner Stritesky motioned to approve the rezoning for Raspberry Hills
from A-1, Agricultural Rural Service to R-3, Residential Long Range Urban
Service. Seconded by Commissioner Schuck. All in favor. Motion carried.
Commissioner Stritesky motioned to approve the PUD CUP, Preliminary and
Final Plats for Raspberry Hills subject to the 13 conditions as outlined in the 25
September 2017 Planning Report, including deletion of Condition #5 and
requiring all nine (9) new lots to have direct lot access to O'Day Court or 83ra
Circle to eliminate the need for shared access driveways and associated
easements and the addition of Condition #14 requiring removal of the existing
farm/pasture fencing along the west and south sides of the plat, provided the
fencing is verified to on the subject property. Seconded by Commissioner
Schuck. All in favor. Motion carried.
3.2 John F. Lenz Revocable Trust: (Tabled from September 18, 2017)
A . PUD -CUP Amendment Regarding Accessory Buildings.
Associate City Planner recommends the Planning Commission continue this public hearing at the
November 6, 2017 Planning Commission Meeting.
Commissioner Stritesky motioned to continue this public hearing at the November 6,
2017 Planning Commission Meeting. Seconded by Commissioners Kolles and Nichols.
All in favor. Motion carried.
4. Update on City Council actions.
CM Heidner gave an update to the Commissioners on City Council actions.
5. Update on future Planning Commission Agenda items.
There will be no meeting on October 16, 2017. The next Planning Commission Meeting
will be on Monday, November 6, 2017.
6. Adjourn.
Commissioner Stritesky motioned to adjourn at 7:56 PM. Seconded by
Commissioner Offerman. All in favor. Motion carried.
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Pam Black, Chair
ATTEST:
Sandy ind felser, Admini t ative Assistant